What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[CountDeMoney]

People don't go to Spain to become Spanish.

They actually do in sizeable numbers. Spain received millions of inmigrants during the booming years of the late 90s/early 00s, and plenty of them received Spanish citizenship eventually (most of them Latin Americans, which have an easy path to citizenship).

You're not tracking me, Franco.  You don't go to Spain to become Spanish.  I'm sure there is "A Spanish Dream," but it's not trademarked.

[LaCroix]

passports cost a ton -- $150 total I'm told, so the passport thing might not be the best example

[frunk]

That worried me first; considering the aggressive and reckless foreign policy stance this crowd has taken, between the Bond Villain, Flynn the psycho, the rest of the Lyndon LaRouche crowd, and the ultimate intemperate and thin-skinned impetuous demagogue at the center, I would be outright concerned about some sort of apocalyptic deathwish to fulfill some sort of End of Days vision with these conspiracy nuts...but the only thing is, they're so fucking rich--and wealthy people don't want to intentionally bring about Armageddon, because they're too busy trying to get richer.  It's the poor ones you have to worry about. 

No, innumerable people will be killed by accident and miscalculation. 

In Cerebus's case his wealth fluctuates wildly due to circumstances, even goes bankrupt a few times.  Becoming Pope is just another means to get as much money as possible, he doesn't really care if other people live or die.

[FunkMonk]

LaCroix has become my second favorite poster, behind Lettow.

Well fuck you too buddy. 

You are among the pantheon of greats already, Sulla.

Well fuck you too buddy. 

Lighten up, Francis.

[Grey Fox]

What did I do?!

[Valmy]

I'll back up Oex that american exceptionalism is still a thing.

Really? I am having a hard time remembering it being brought up since the Dubya years. From anybody really.

Guys...guys...I already conceded several posts ago.

[The Larch]

President Donald Trump to publish weekly list of crimes committed by immigrants
Republican plans to publicise 'criminal actions committed by aliens' and crack down on 'sanctuary' cities that protect migrants from being deported

Donald Trump has ordered his new administration to publish a weekly list of crimes committed by immigrants.

The US President's sweeping new executive order on immigration, which he signed on the fifth day of his presidency, includes a paragraph mandating the Secretary for Homeland Security to "make public a comprehensive list of criminal actions committed by aliens" in the US.

The list will also include details of so-called "sanctuary cities" that refuse to hand over immigrant residents for deportation.

It does not specify that only crimes committed by illegal immigrants should be included - raising the prospect of offences committed by any immigrant being published even if the person is living in the US legally.

The decision to publish a list of immigrant crimes is reminiscent of the 'Black crime' listings on Breitbart News - the far-right website that until recently was run by Steve Bannon, who is now Mr Trump's chief strategist.

In an executive order titled "Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements", Mr Trump signed into law many of the pledges he made during his election campaign. These include building a wall along the US-Mexico border, deporting illegal immigrants, establishing new immigration detention centres and hiring 5,000 more Border Patrol agents.

The order claimed the measures were needed to "ensure the safety and territorial integrity of the United States" and said illegal immigrants "present a significant threat to national security and public safety".

On signing the order, the President read out the names of US citizens who were murdered by illegal immigrants.

Mr Trump has repeatedly promised to deport millions of undocumented migrants from the US. During the presidential campaign, he said:  "We have some bad hombres, and we're going to get them out".

On the issue of Mexican immigrants, he said: "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people".

The Republican pledged to remove 11 million undocumented migrants from the US within the first two years of his presidency, although later said the real number would be "probably two million, even three million".

There are an estimated 820,000 undocumented migrants with criminal records in the US.

In response to Mr Trump's threat, the Democrat mayors of a number of large US cities, including New York, Chicago and Seattle, said they would refuse to co-operate with federal authorities attempting to deport immigrants.

The Republican responded by saying he would starve such cities of federal funding, and has now signed this into law via a second executive order, signed on the same day and titled 'Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States'.

This states that "sanctuary jurisdictions" are "not eligible to received Federal grants".

However, some experts have suggested such a move could be illegal. US law says federal funds can only be withheld if a city or state refuses to do something directly related to the funding they are receiving.

For example, money earmarked for education or economic investment could not be withheld if a city refused to comply with immigration enforcement.

[Grey Fox]

The US should build the wall at Latitude 21, probably much cheaper.

[jimmy olsen]

The US should build the wall at Latitude 21, probably much cheaper.

[The Minsky Moment]

The Republican responded by saying he would starve such cities of federal funding, and has now signed this into law via a second executive order, signed on the same day and titled 'Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States'.

This EO is an extraordinary document; the section of "sanctuary cities" is a flagrant break with constitutional principles of federalism (reflected in one case in a landmark opinion by Justice Scalia).

Comes as no surprise but still kind of breathtaking to see the level of hyprocrisy after months of campaigning against Obama's so-called unconstitutional EOs.

[Valmy]

Which cities, specifically, are we talking about and which programs are being...um....frozen or whatever?

[dps]

he's wrong about evangelists -- they're social conservatives who would never vote democratic

You guys are really clueless about evangelicals.  If none of them would ever vote democratic, no democrat would ever get elected to any office except maybe in the West coast states.  Lots of Democrats are evangelicals;  former President Carter is, and I think  Barack .Obama is (though he doesn't talk about it nearly as much as Jimmy Carter did).  Bill Clinton probably is at least nominally (he's a Baptist, and most Baptists are evangelical).

[Valmy]

The US should build the wall at Latitude 21, probably much cheaper.

Tim Map

Lame. I thought he wanted 54 40'.

[LaCroix]

You guys are really clueless about evangelicals.  If none of them would ever vote democratic, no democrat would ever get elected to any office except maybe in the West coast states.  Lots of Democrats are evangelicals;  former President Carter is, and I think  Barack .Obama is (though he doesn't talk about it nearly as much as Jimmy Carter did).  Bill Clinton probably is at least nominally (he's a Baptist, and most Baptists are evangelical).

I was operating under the normally understood definition -- nutso people, or the really truly religious or creepy people or however you want to call them. if you go by a broad interpretation, the fairly moderate / left lutheran ELCA is evangelical, and that doesn't mesh.

[The Minsky Moment]

Which cities, specifically, are we talking about and which programs are being...um....frozen or whatever?

Any city that doesn't provide certain kinds of cooperation with federal law enforcement would lose ALL federal funding and grants other than certain limited "law enforcement" support