What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Jacob]

Look at the situation the guy is in. He's president-elect. For his whole life he's been able to act on his own judgment and then suddenly the whole Washington influence armada is swarming all over him. It's no surprise he'd want to keep a few people from his past life that he knows are actually trustworthy and loyal to him and not K Street. I would do that in every meeting just to make sure the real people in the room aren't outnumbered by the lobbyists.

It's perfectly understandable, of course, but that doesn't make Minsky's description of the situation any less accurate.

His children are lobbyists too - the only difference is they will be lobbying for things that benefit the family interests.

[CountDeMoney]

I would do that in every meeting just to make sure the real people in the room aren't outnumbered by the lobbyists.

Except that in his case the "real people" are other real estate magnates (LeFrak and others), private equity titans (Poulsen), greenmailers (Icahn), vulture investors (Ross) etc.  This isn't like the Charles Grodin character in "Dave."  These are guys with big interests of their own, who lobby in their own right.

Trump has always had a need to surround himself with, and subsequently impress, the wealthiest of the wealthy.  To prove not just to them, but to himself, that he belongs.  Been that way since the 80s.

[Valmy]

many of these were before he was elected. I don't think he really thought he'd win the presidency, so his empire was really his main concern. he's now won, and until concrete evidence surfaces that his main purpose is to grow his empire rather than to lead the country, it's speculation and assumptions. some are willing to damn him before he begins, but I'm waiting awhile until we see more. and, if he is/does what you say he is/will do, then it'll be very clear fairly early on what he's doing. and the public will damn him for that

What difference does it make? It is not like we are voting again for him each day. Just because somebody might damn him today does not mean they cannot approve tomorrow when he does something else.

[garbon]

many of these were before he was elected. I don't think he really thought he'd win the presidency, so his empire was really his main concern. he's now won, and until concrete evidence surfaces that his main purpose is to grow his empire rather than to lead the country, it's speculation and assumptions. some are willing to damn him before he begins, but I'm waiting awhile until we see more. and, if he is/does what you say he is/will do, then it'll be very clear fairly early on what he's doing. and the public will damn him for that

What difference does it make? It is not like we are voting again for him each day. Just because somebody might damn him today does not mean they cannot approve tomorrow when he does something else.

Of course, I also like the notion that we're supposed to just disregard all the things that a 70 year old man has done in his past like he'll suddenly be a different person...

I can't wait for the pivot!

[LaCroix]

many of these were before he was elected. I don't think he really thought he'd win the presidency, so his empire was really his main concern. he's now won, and until concrete evidence surfaces that his main purpose is to grow his empire rather than to lead the country, it's speculation and assumptions. some are willing to damn him before he begins, but I'm waiting awhile until we see more. and, if he is/does what you say he is/will do, then it'll be very clear fairly early on what he's doing. and the public will damn him for that

What difference does it make? It is not like we are voting again for him each day. Just because somebody might damn him today does not mean they cannot approve tomorrow when he does something else.

an allegation was made that, at this point, lacked sufficient evidence from what I can tell. I don't think JR was making a prediction, which would be fair; I read his post as him saying it's happening now, which the evidence just doesn't yet support.

[LaCroix]

Of course, I also like the notion that we're supposed to just disregard all the things that a 70 year old man has done in his past like he'll suddenly be a different person...

I can't wait for the pivot!

no need to disregard it. but using it to declare his current intentions, holding this alleged intention out as a concrete fact, isn't right either

[Ideologue]

In answer to the OP question it's starting to come into focus.  We've elected a king.

Yeah, a Targaryen.

[garbon]

In answer to the OP question it's starting to come into focus.  We've elected a king.

Yeah, a Targaryen.

I like Dany!

[Ideologue]

Sure, she's my favorite character.  Maybe Ivanka will turn out to be the Mother of Dragons.

[garbon]

Sure, she's my favorite character.  Maybe Ivanka will turn out to be the Mother of Dragons.

I got no beef with Ivanka. Well maybe an excessive amount of familial piety. When your family member is a dog, you call that shit out.

[MadImmortalMan]

I'd be loyal as hell if I were a Trump. That guy will destroy your life if you cross him. And then call you a loser. 

[garbon]

I'd be loyal as hell if I were a Trump. That guy will destroy your life if you cross him. And then call you a loser. 

Sometimes you just gotta take out the king.

[MadImmortalMan]

Oh here's an idea. Trump is so driven that when Obama made fun of him for not being the president, he ran for president and won. I think we should make fun of Trump for not being the first man to quit before taking office.

[CountDeMoney]

Sure, she's my favorite character.  Maybe Ivanka will turn out to be the Mother of Dragons.

I got no beef with Ivanka. Well maybe an excessive amount of familial piety. When your family member is a dog, you call that shit out.

She may wind up being the one with any sense in that place

[jimmy olsen]

personally, I think trump more wants to do a good job as president than to line his pockets. plus, he probably knows that if he does well, his presidential success will lead to greater rewards for his dynasty down the line.

I'm sure he believes he can do both. I see no reason why we should humor that belief.