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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 09:52:54 AM
Absolutely not.  There are many people I'd replace Trump with (cough, cough, Pence), but Hillary ain't one of them.  Trump is less than ideal, for sure, but absolute debacle?  There have been things I disagreed with, like the strike against Syria, but on the other hand I got Gorsuch.  Would Hillary have given me Gorsuch?  No, she'd give me an RBG2. 

What a silly question.  I really hope you weren't expecting me to say OMG YES I'D TAKE HILLARY NOW

You're leaving all the important stuff: temperament, lying, unpredictability, nastiness, trolls in office, communication style, ignorance of issues and the working of government, contempt for judiciary, etc., etc.

derspiess

Quote from: Jacob on April 14, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 11:55:12 AM
I love you guys :D

Would full on war with North Korea, including the destruction of Seoul and the death and displacement of millions of Koreans make you consider that maybe Clinton would have been better, even if it meant no Gorsuch?

Let's cross that bridge if/when we get to it.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 14, 2017, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 09:52:54 AM
Absolutely not.  There are many people I'd replace Trump with (cough, cough, Pence), but Hillary ain't one of them.  Trump is less than ideal, for sure, but absolute debacle?  There have been things I disagreed with, like the strike against Syria, but on the other hand I got Gorsuch.  Would Hillary have given me Gorsuch?  No, she'd give me an RBG2. 

What a silly question.  I really hope you weren't expecting me to say OMG YES I'D TAKE HILLARY NOW

You're leaving all the important stuff: temperament, lying, unpredictability, nastiness, trolls in office, communication style, ignorance of issues and the working of government, contempt for judiciary, etc., etc.

Oh, come on now.  Hillary isn't guilty of *all* those things :P

Seriously though, yeah Trump is a clown.  You want to get rid of him?  Fine, I'll gladly take Pence.  But so far even with his clownish issues I think the country is better off than if Hillary had won.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 14, 2017, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 09:52:54 AM
Absolutely not.  There are many people I'd replace Trump with (cough, cough, Pence), but Hillary ain't one of them.  Trump is less than ideal, for sure, but absolute debacle?  There have been things I disagreed with, like the strike against Syria, but on the other hand I got Gorsuch.  Would Hillary have given me Gorsuch?  No, she'd give me an RBG2. 

What a silly question.  I really hope you weren't expecting me to say OMG YES I'D TAKE HILLARY NOW

You're leaving all the important stuff: temperament, lying, unpredictability, nastiness, trolls in office, communication style, ignorance of issues and the working of government, contempt for judiciary, etc., etc.

Oh, come on now.  Hillary isn't guilty of *all* those things :P

Seriously though, yeah Trump is a clown.  You want to get rid of him?  Fine, I'll gladly take Pence.  But so far even with his clownish issues I think the country is better off than if Hillary had won.

In what ways?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
But so far even with his clownish issues I think the country is better off than if Hillary had won.

Because of things like Gorsuch?  You're willing to live with an Orange Retard in the Oval Office as long as you get that?

Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 02:33:16 PM
Let's cross that bridge if/when we get to it.

Hopefully we won't, but okay.

Admiral Yi

Though in passing I will note the intensity of the Burnt Sienna has been greatly reduced since assuming office.

DGuller

Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 10:23:04 AM
That's a cute tactic-- questioning my patriotism.  That'll shame me into agreeing with you on everything, for sure!
Sometimes people just say things because that's what they think, without trying to accomplish anything by doing that.  It may even be counterproductive, but sometimes you're just too exasperated to give a shit. 

It seems clear to me that Berkut genuinely thinks that you put your party above your country.  Is he right?  Yes.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 14, 2017, 02:40:55 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
But so far even with his clownish issues I think the country is better off than if Hillary had won.

Because of things like Gorsuch?  You're willing to live with an Orange Retard in the Oval Office as long as you get that?

The hardest of the hardcore right has been howling for precisely that for years;  they've always played the long game. Congress? Meh. We need the Presidency...a GOP President may last 4 or even 8 years, but a hard right, completely delineated Supreme Court? That could last generations.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
Seriously though, yeah Trump is a clown.  You want to get rid of him?  Fine, I'll gladly take Pence.  But so far even with his clownish issues I think the country is better off than if Hillary had won.

The great thing about people who write posts like this makes it so much easier to confirm that, yes, they're fucking morons. #MakeDumbfuckistanGreatAgain



Berkut

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
Seriously though, yeah Trump is a clown.  You want to get rid of him?  Fine, I'll gladly take Pence.  But so far even with his clownish issues I think the country is better off than if Hillary had won.

The great thing about people who write posts like this makes it so much easier to confirm that, yes, they're fucking morons. #MakeDumbfuckistanGreatAgain




I love that he is slobbering over Pence, the US version of the Taliban.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Berkut on April 14, 2017, 04:49:27 PM
I love that he is slobbering over Pence, the US version of the Taliban.

Of course he is. He's a one-issue voter.

derspiess

Quote from: Berkut on April 14, 2017, 04:49:27 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 14, 2017, 04:28:05 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 14, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
Seriously though, yeah Trump is a clown.  You want to get rid of him?  Fine, I'll gladly take Pence.  But so far even with his clownish issues I think the country is better off than if Hillary had won.

The great thing about people who write posts like this makes it so much easier to confirm that, yes, they're fucking morons. #MakeDumbfuckistanGreatAgain




I love that he is slobbering over Pence, the US version of the Taliban.

I'll pray for you.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Admiral Yi

Quote from: DGuller on April 14, 2017, 04:10:59 PM
Sometimes people just say things because that's what they think, without trying to accomplish anything by doing that.  It may even be counterproductive, but sometimes you're just too exasperated to give a shit. 

It seems clear to me that Berkut genuinely thinks that you put your party above your country.  Is he right?  Yes.

This is an assumption looking for an echo chamber.  It belongs in the same category as "if you prefer Trump to Hillary, it shows you are a fan of Putin."

Oexmelin

It's a politically provocative post, using the language that the right has appropriated for years. It would be the same if you told a Democrat that he/she did not actually care about poor people -- and it would serve the same purpose: to question the truisms associated with parties, and reclaim certain issues. 
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