What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Tonitrus]

Speaker Johnson is now saying that Trump was an FBI informant against Epstein. 

If that were true...then how does that square with Trump saying it is all a hoax?

(and it only took a few months to think up that ploy!)

[Razgovory]

Trump is a rat who helped Obama to create a hoax against himself?

[Sophie Scholl]

5D Chessmaster. Kasparov thinking he could take Trump is the *real* Russia Hoax!

[Syt]

The distinction between legal and illegal immigrant seems increasingly irrelevant. ICE just arrests them all.

"Arrest them all! Let courts sort them out (if they have time)."

[Josquius]

Have they started arresting legal immigrants whilst trying to file renewal paper work and keeping them locked up long enough they become illegal?
Seems their sort of thing.

[Norgy]

Trump is a rat who helped Obama to create a hoax against himself?

Does sound like Trump logic. So yes.

[Tamas]

Have they started arresting legal immigrants whilst trying to file renewal paper work and keeping them locked up long enough they become illegal?
Seems their sort of thing.

There was this woman from New Zealand and her 6 years old kid recently. She was coming back from a brief visit to Canada, she had two visas one valid the other with renewal in progress. So because of the latter they locked her and her kid up ő some Texas detention centre for weeks.

[crazy canuck]

Slight correction, she was not visiting Canada.  She just went to the Vancouver airport to put her other two kids on a flight  to New Zealamd to visit their grand parents.  So just a quick trip across the border.  Something in the before times that would have gotten a wave through at the border.

Also her son could enter as a US citizen.  He was illegally detained.  Her two permits were normally extended at the same time, and when she r received notification of the extension approval she unfortunately assumed they were again both approved.

I can't remember what had gone wrong, but some governmental mix up caused one of the permits to still be pending approval for an extension.  It was just bad luck then when she crossed it had just expired.

FUBAR

[Syt]

[Syt]

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-immigration-stops-los-angeles-trump-57cc1f85ceafda0f11052b326c8b7173

Supreme Court lifts restrictions on LA immigration stops set after agents swept up US citizens

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Monday cleared the way for federal agents to conduct sweeping immigration operations in Los Angeles, the latest victory for President Donald Trump's administration at the high court.

The conservative majority lifted a restraining order from a judge who found that "roving patrols" were conducting indiscriminate arrests in LA. The order had barred agents from stopping people solely based on their race, language, job or location.

Trump's Republican administration argued the order wrongly restricted agents carrying out its widespread crackdown on illegal immigration.

U.S. District Judge Maame E. Frimpong in Los Angeles had found a "mountain of evidence" that enforcement tactics were violating the Constitution. The plaintiffs included U.S. citizens swept up in immigration stops. An appeals court had left Frimpong's ruling in place.

The Supreme Court's 6-3 decision comes as Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents also step up enforcement in Washington amid Trump's unprecedented federal takeover of the capital city's law enforcement and deployment of the National Guard.

The lawsuit will now continue to unfold in California. It was filed by immigrant advocacy groups that accused Trump's administration of systematically targeting brown-skinned people during his administration's crackdown on illegal immigration in the Los Angeles area.

In a stinging dissent joined by her two liberal colleagues, Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote, "Countless people in the Los Angeles area have been grabbed, thrown to the ground, and handcuffed simply because of their looks, their accents, and the fact they make a living by doing manual labor. Today, the Court needlessly subjects countless more to these exact same indignities."

Department of Homeland Security attorneys have said immigration officers target people based on illegal presence in the U.S., not skin color, race or ethnicity. Even so, the Justice Department argued that the order wrongly restricted the factors that ICE agents can use when deciding who to stop.

The Los Angeles region has been a battleground for the Trump administration after its hard-line immigration strategy spurred protests and the deployment of the National Guard and the Marines. The number of immigration raids in the LA area appeared to slow shortly after Frimpong's order came down in July, but recently they have become more frequent again, including an operation in which agents jumped out of the back of a rented box truck and made arrests at an LA Home Depot store.

The plaintiffs argued that her order only prevents federal agents from making stops without reasonable suspicion, something that aligns with the Constitution and Supreme Court precedent.

"Numerous U.S. citizens and others who are lawfully present in this country have been subjected to significant intrusions on their liberty," the plaintiffs' attorneys wrote. "Many have been physically injured; at least two were taken to a holding facility."

The Trump administration said the order is too restrictive, "threatening agents with sanctions if the court disbelieves that they relied on additional factors in making any particular stop."

Solicitor General D. John Sauer also argued the order can't stand under the high court's recent decision restricting universal injunctions, though the plaintiffs disagreed.

The order from Frimpong, who was nominated by Democratic President Joe Biden, barred authorities from using factors like apparent race or ethnicity, speaking Spanish or English with an accent, presence at a location such as a tow yard or car wash, or someone's occupation as the only basis for reasonable suspicion for detention. Its covered a combined population of nearly 20 million people, nearly half of whom identify as Hispanic or Latino.

Plaintiffs included three detained immigrants and two U.S. citizens. One of the citizens was Los Angeles resident Brian Gavidia, who was shown in a June 13 video being seized by federal agents as he yelled, "I was born here in the States. East LA, bro!"

Gavidia was released about 20 minutes later after showing agents his identification, as was another citizen stopped at a car wash, according to the lawsuit.

[Tamas]

Supreme Court: Arrest all the brown people, God will sort out his own.

[Valmy]

You have no rights, just temporary privileges that can be rescinded if you are ever unpopular enough.

[The Brain]

The lesson of the 1930s is get out while you can.

[PJL]

You have no rights, just temporary privileges that can be rescinded if you are ever unpopular enough.

People care for nothing, no respect for human rights. Evil times are coming, we are in for darker nights.

Moral of the song, we're fucked, might as well enjoy ourselves while the ship goes down. Because standing up is scary if you think you're gonna fall...

[Oexmelin]

As much as I understand that sort of nihilism (après moi le déluge) and fear, it's really accelerating US's consolidation of authoritarianism. I keep seeing colleagues who seem to hold their breath and hope it will pass, without doing much in the way of actually developing a playbook to oppose what they can. I know it is hard to dismantle decades, if not centuries of American exceptionalism in collective consciousness, but the responses from civil society has been incredibly weak.