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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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grumbler

So, it turns out that one of the ten Americans involved in the prisoner exchange with Venezuela was a man convicted of three brutal murders, in Spain in 2016. He was released on his return to the US, with Little Marco somehow apparently unaware that he was a mass murderer.

Now Spanish and German authorities fear for the safety of the intended victims of the murders (the three killed were unconnected to the motives for the murder). This guy, Hanid Ortiz, sounds very much like the kind of person who will treat Trump administration incompetence as an opportunity to finish the job he started in 2016.

Wasn't Trump supposed to be exporting of murderers, not importing them?
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So I read that the white house's request to release the jury papers from the Epstein case has yielded the result they wanted: it has been denied.

Now they will make a deal with Maxwell for her to testify that Trump didn't even know the guy, and then it's sorted.

garbon

Quote from: Tamas on July 23, 2025, 03:29:55 PMSo I read that the white house's request to release the jury papers from the Epstein case has yielded the result they wanted: it has been denied.

Now they will make a deal with Maxwell for her to testify that Trump didn't even know the guy, and then it's sorted.

That doesn't sound like the sort of solution that quiets conspiracy theorists.
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Quote from: garbon on July 23, 2025, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 23, 2025, 03:29:55 PMSo I read that the white house's request to release the jury papers from the Epstein case has yielded the result they wanted: it has been denied.

Now they will make a deal with Maxwell for her to testify that Trump didn't even know the guy, and then it's sorted.

That doesn't sound like the sort of solution that quiets conspiracy theorists.

Agreed, but if they also get her to say that it was all about Obama covering up his own involvement, now you have a conspiratorial winner to satiate the needs of the MAGA faithful.
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Quote from: grumbler on July 23, 2025, 02:41:56 PMSo, it turns out that one of the ten Americans involved in the prisoner exchange with Venezuela was a man convicted of three brutal murders, in Spain in 2016. He was released on his return to the US, with Little Marco somehow apparently unaware that he was a mass murderer.

Now Spanish and German authorities fear for the safety of the intended victims of the murders (the three killed were unconnected to the motives for the murder). This guy, Hanid Ortiz, sounds very much like the kind of person who will treat Trump administration incompetence as an opportunity to finish the job he started in 2016.

Wasn't Trump supposed to be exporting of murderers, not importing them?


What colour are the people he wants to murder?
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garbon

Quote from: crazy canuck on July 23, 2025, 05:14:12 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 23, 2025, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 23, 2025, 03:29:55 PMSo I read that the white house's request to release the jury papers from the Epstein case has yielded the result they wanted: it has been denied.

Now they will make a deal with Maxwell for her to testify that Trump didn't even know the guy, and then it's sorted.

That doesn't sound like the sort of solution that quiets conspiracy theorists.

Agreed, but if they also get her to say that it was all about Obama covering up his own involvement, now you have a conspiratorial winner to satiate the needs of the MAGA faithful.

It looks like they are using Obama but on a 2016 and Russia angle.
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viper37

@The Minsky Moment.

Wanted your input on something I just read.

Totally unreliable source, just a couple of FB posts and I can't even link the image, IMGUR doesn't work for me rn.

You said Trump doesn't care about the Wall Street Journal lawsuit because in Federal court, he could perjure himself at will (paraphrasing here) and nothing would happen.

What I'm reading however considers the rebound.

Everyone around him is worried and a lot of people tried to dissuade him because during the discovery process, he'll have to depose documents, e-mails, text messages, etc and that could implicate a lot of people around him.  That's making everyone nervous.

Not sure if the image copy will work, but here it is:






How reliable could this theory be?  Also, that American lawyers hating Trump now see a glimmer of hope because of this?
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I think it'll just cement their subservience, since they'll depend on his pardons to avoid being thrown to the wolves.

Bauer

Trumps birthday card to Epstein seemed pretty damn suspicious to me  :hmm:

grumbler

Quote from: Tamas on July 23, 2025, 03:29:55 PMSo I read that the white house's request to release the jury papers from the Epstein case has yielded the result they wanted: it has been denied.

Now they will make a deal with Maxwell for her to testify that Trump didn't even know the guy, and then it's sorted.

Getting grand jury transcripts released is always a difficult sell. That the judge refused is what was expected.  The request was merely performative.
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grumbler

Quote from: Josquius on July 23, 2025, 05:19:42 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 23, 2025, 02:41:56 PMSo, it turns out that one of the ten Americans involved in the prisoner exchange with Venezuela was a man convicted of three brutal murders, in Spain in 2016. He was released on his return to the US, with Little Marco somehow apparently unaware that he was a mass murderer.

Now Spanish and German authorities fear for the safety of the intended victims of the murders (the three killed were unconnected to the motives for the murder). This guy, Hanid Ortiz, sounds very much like the kind of person who will treat Trump administration incompetence as an opportunity to finish the job he started in 2016.

Wasn't Trump supposed to be exporting of murderers, not importing them?


What colour are the people he wants to murder?

A Spanish man and a German woman. Colors not specified.
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Tamas

Quote from: garbon on July 23, 2025, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 23, 2025, 05:14:12 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 23, 2025, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 23, 2025, 03:29:55 PMSo I read that the white house's request to release the jury papers from the Epstein case has yielded the result they wanted: it has been denied.

Now they will make a deal with Maxwell for her to testify that Trump didn't even know the guy, and then it's sorted.

That doesn't sound like the sort of solution that quiets conspiracy theorists.

Agreed, but if they also get her to say that it was all about Obama covering up his own involvement, now you have a conspiratorial winner to satiate the needs of the MAGA faithful.

It looks like they are using Obama but on a 2016 and Russia angle.

His base, conspiracy nuts included, are going to fall in line once given the excuse to do so.

garbon

Sounds like Columbia is a unversity...worth avoiding.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8zljpvyk0o

QuoteColumbia University to pay $200m in settlement with Trump administration

Columbia University has agreed to pay $200m (£147m) to President Donald Trump's administration over accusations it failed to protect its Jewish students.

The settlement, which will be paid to the federal government over three years, was announced in a statement by the university and confirmed by the president on social media.

In exchange, the government has agreed to return some of the $400m in federal grants it froze or terminated in March.

Columbia was the first school targeted by the administration for its alleged failures to curb antisemitism amid last year's Israel-Gaza war protests on its New York City campus. It had already agreed to a set of demands from the White House in March.

The deal with Columbia University is "a seismic shift in our nation's fight" to hold universities accountable, Education Secretary Linda McMahon said.

Claire Shipman, Columbia's acting president, said in a statement: "This agreement marks an important step forward after a period of sustained federal scrutiny and institutional uncertainty."

Columbia is among a list of universities that have been pursued by the Trump administration over protests against Israel's war campaign in Gaza and other issues, including transgender athletes and diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programmes.

The government has targeted over 4,000 grants for termination at over 600 universities and colleges across the US, totalling roughly $8bn, according to a tracker by the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank.

Trump posted on Truth Social platform on Wednesday: "Columbia has also committed to ending their ridiculous DEI policies, admitting students based ONLY on MERIT, and protecting the Civil Liberties of their students on campus.

"Numerous other Higher Education Institutions that have hurt so many, and been so unfair and unjust, and have wrongly spent federal money, much of it from our government, are upcoming."

One month after Trump was sworn into office, his administration stripped Columbia of $400m in federal funding over allegations of antisemitism.

The frozen funds posed an immediate threat to the university's research, leading Ms Shipman to say in June that things had reached a "tipping point".

The White House's decision led Columbia to enact campus rule changes demanded by the administration, including the re-organisation of its Middle Eastern studies department, and hiring a team of "special officers" empowered to remove students from campus and make arrests.

Columbia said as part of its monetary settlement, a vast majority of the cancelled or paused grants would be reinstated.

The agreement codifies many changes the college has already announced and includes that a jointly selected independent monitor will be appointed to assess implementation of the agreement.

Some of those adjustments include disciplining students who were part of the encampment on the university's campus as part of the Gaza protests, requiring protesters to show campus ID, not allowing face masks during demonstrations, providing greater oversight of student groups, and an expansion of officers on campus.

The university said the settlement was not an admission of wrongdoing.

"This agreement marks an important step forward after a period of sustained federal scrutiny and institutional uncertainty," Shipman said.

"The settlement was carefully crafted to protect the values that define us and allow our essential research partnership with the federal government to get back on track."

She added that the terms of the agreement would safeguard the school's independence.

Columbia's willingness to comply with the university in March was met with intense criticism from some who felt the Ivy League college had conceded its independence.

Harvard has taken the opposite approach.

Although the government has suspended billions in funding from the university and moved to end its ability to enrol international students, Harvard is suing the administration.

Hearings in the case between Harvard, the richest university in the country, and the White House, the nation's highest branch of government, began on Monday.

The Trump administration has signalled it is hoping schools go more in the direction of Columbia.

In her statement, McMahon called Columbia's reforms "a roadmap for elite universities that wish to regain the confidence of the American public".

"I believe they will ripple across the higher education sector and change the course of campus culture for years to come," she said.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
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Syt

I get that large entities (universities, media corporations, big law firms, ...) often prefer settling over drawn out and potentially unpredictable litigation, but settling with the Trump Regime it seems especially odious.
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Sheilbh

I think there's a big difference though between organisations that are fundamentally businesses and universities. I mean what is the point of those vast endowments if not to be independent?

But yeah Columbia has proven very susceptible to any pressure and not just Trump. I think this started with the university's approach (against a lot of its academic community's wishes) on pro-Palestinian protests. Those protest also seems to be the first route for the right to use civil rights legislation for their ends and also to give a smack of threatening, masked government to dissenters.
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