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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Norgy

Quote from: chipwich on July 22, 2025, 09:16:59 AM
Quote from: Norgy on July 22, 2025, 07:59:10 AM
Quote from: chipwich on July 21, 2025, 05:47:44 PMIf Colbert got canceled for attacking Trump they would not have kept him on until next May. Get over it.

Nobody, absolutely nobody, asked you about your opinion. You're like that waiter that doesn't come with a menu or serve you, but just stands around uselessly telling people that it is a really busy night.

Fuck off stalker.

Relax, there is zero percent chance of me taking the time to stalk some American troll. You just have to learn to live with what you were given, young man. Which apparently was not abundancy in any respect.

Sheilbh

Quote from: celedhring on July 22, 2025, 04:18:22 AM]Weirdly they are still going strong in Spain.  We even have politically-loaded talk show wars.
Yeah they exist here but not the four or five nights a week - it's been tried a few times but there just aren't enough big enough celebrities with things to promote in the UK to sustain that so it becomes like those panel shows where the same rota of about 10 comedians cycle.

Weekly talk shows still work, like Graham Norton. There were some political ones here - the closest now is probably Peston. But I think the BBC stopped doing their stand alone shows like that and instead moved their hard news show into more of a talking heads format :bleeding:

QuoteAnyway, I'd be careful with the "XXXXX program viewers are old". I've worked in shows where once you merged all the windows the average age went down nearly 10 years compared to people watching it on traditional TV. Old people watch TV on the TV.
Yeah - but I think it does matter when you're comparing with the show he took over to rejuvenate. But I think this goes to a question of what these types of shows will look like in a few years because I think as garbon's article says that they're not really shows that people watch on catch-up or on streaming.

I don't think the format's dead - my suspicion is it'll be re-invented with an online/streaming-first approach.

QuoteNo if you click on it on Prime, it wants you to get Paramount+

Trek is also on Plus and not Sky.
Fair enough - I'm probably wrong :ph34r: :blush:
Let's bomb Russia!

HVC

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 22, 2025, 01:53:28 PMI don't think the format's dead - my suspicion is it'll be re-invented with an online/streaming-first approach.


It's been done. On YouTube :P
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Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

Quote from: HVC on July 22, 2025, 02:04:35 PMIt's been done. On YouTube :P
Pls I am aged.

Although I saw that YouTube creators are being told they need to produce at least some "shorts" along with their normal content or the algorithm will stop displaying them so prominently. So maybe that ties in too.
Let's bomb Russia!

Neil

Quote from: garbon on July 22, 2025, 10:59:44 AMElsbeth is great. Though oddly enough I can't watch that on what that conglomerate also has, Paramount+, but have to watch on Now TV. :hmm:
I'm operating solely from promos in football games, but I'm wondering what the premise is.  It seems like a detective show with a quirky detective, sort of like Castle, Lucifer, Bull, Will Trent, The Mesmerist, Elementary or House M.D.  Is that a fair assessment? 
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HVC

Quote from: Sheilbh on July 22, 2025, 02:06:37 PM
Quote from: HVC on July 22, 2025, 02:04:35 PMIt's been done. On YouTube :P
Pls I am aged.

Although I saw that YouTube creators are being told they need to produce at least some "shorts" along with their normal content or the algorithm will stop displaying them so prominently. So maybe that ties in too.

* sheilbh Sitting around the radio in the 50s brain storming ways to revitalize the medium while telling the kids to shut that damn tv off, it's too loud to think* :P

As for content creators, probably. They have three concerns: audience, advertisers, and the algorithm. "Traditional" mediums just have the two.

*edit* and from what I can tell most shorts are just clips of their regular stuff.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

garbon

Quote from: Neil on July 22, 2025, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 22, 2025, 10:59:44 AMElsbeth is great. Though oddly enough I can't watch that on what that conglomerate also has, Paramount+, but have to watch on Now TV. :hmm:
I'm operating solely from promos in football games, but I'm wondering what the premise is.  It seems like a detective show with a quirky detective, sort of like Castle, Lucifer, Bull, Will Trent, The Mesmerist, Elementary or House M.D.  Is that a fair assessment? 

Sort of except that she's actually a former defense attorney. She was a character on The Good Wife and its spinoff The Good Fight before getting her own show.

It 100% is in that vein though of detective show with some twist to the format. Sort of like how Wild Cards has the twist (like White Collar) of the cop and a criminal.
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Zanza

15% import tax for Japanese goods, open market for American F-150s and GMO rice in Japan. :lol: 
And half a trillion "investments at Trumps direction where 90% if the profits are kept" - whatever that might mean.

Will be interesting to see how the EU positions itself.

Bauer

Japanese don't buy big cars though, narrow roads there.  Must have been an easy thing to agree to...

celedhring

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Quote from: Sheilbh on July 22, 2025, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: celedhring on July 22, 2025, 04:18:22 AM]Weirdly they are still going strong in Spain.  We even have politically-loaded talk show wars.
Yeah they exist here but not the four or five nights a week - it's been tried a few times but there just aren't enough big enough celebrities with things to promote in the UK to sustain that so it becomes like those panel shows where the same rota of about 10 comedians cycle.

One of the things that makes talks shows so expensive ("wait, it's just one guy talking to people!") and why you see a move away from 5 nights a week is that you need a HUGE team to put out content every day. Writers, producers and other staff are also very well paid because of the grueling hours and huge turnover due to burnout. Getting a talk show gig was usually among the best paid work that you could get in the business over here - and also the most stressful. A daily talk show is a machine that's very expensive to keep oiled.

Incidentally, that's also why you see so many "beloved talk show host was secretly an asshole!" news. You need to be a bit of a slavedriver to not lose control of such a ship. I have never personally met a successful talk show host that wasn't a bit of a dick (I'm sure exceptions do exist).

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Bauer on July 22, 2025, 10:56:42 PMJapanese don't buy big cars though, narrow roads there.  Must have been an easy thing to agree to...

Exactly, there is no market for it.
The rice is an even bigger joke.  The Japanese rice market is strictly protected, with a fixed import quota in place since 1995.  The deal doesn't impact the quota; there is just a vague commitment that the US will get a slightly bigger share of the quota (it's already 45%).
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

PJL

So another example of TACO then re the Japan trade deal?

The Minsky Moment

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Quote from: PJL on July 23, 2025, 10:31:01 AMSo another example of TACO then re the Japan trade deal?

If you wanted to be very kind and generous, you could say it is a kind of success because the moving target tariffs Trump has been slapping down are legal phantasms, and the Japan deal appears to be a tangible accord that would actually set a properly binding tariff, assuming eventual approval by Congress.

However, it does completely undermine the supposed commitment to higher sectoral tariffs in areas like autos and steel.  TACO in that sense.

The other question is whether it's good for the US economy to tariff all imports from Japan at 15%.

Honda, Nissan, and Toyota already meet most of their US sales by cars manufactured in the US by their US subs.  It's the smaller players like Mazda and Mitsubishi who rely more on imports from Japan.  The Japanese manufacturers also have production in Canada and Mexico - these should be exempt from tariff under the USMCA although there may have to be litigation over this.  Because it's a law and TRUMP SMASH LAW.

It's hard to see anyone making a large automative production investment in the US under the current climate unless there were already other powerful reasons to do it.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

frunk

Quote from: celedhring on July 23, 2025, 12:27:01 AMOne of the things that makes talks shows so expensive ("wait, it's just one guy talking to people!") and why you see a move away from 5 nights a week is that you need a HUGE team to put out content every day. Writers, producers and other staff are also very well paid because of the grueling hours and huge turnover due to burnout. Getting a talk show gig was usually among the best paid work that you could get in the business over here - and also the most stressful. A daily talk show is a machine that's very expensive to keep oiled.

Incidentally, that's also why you see so many "beloved talk show host was secretly an asshole!" news. You need to be a bit of a slavedriver to not lose control of such a ship. I have never personally met a successful talk show host that wasn't a bit of a dick (I'm sure exceptions do exist).

They are expensive per year, but not that expensive per hour of content produced.  Most talk shows run 4-5 hours each week for 40+ weeks, that's 160+ hours per year.  Compare that to a 1/2 hour sitcom with 20 episodes, 10 hours a year.  I'd be surprised if most talk shows are 16 times more expensive to produce than a sitcom.

celedhring

Scripted programming will always be more expensive outside of the crummiest soaps/sitcoms, indeed.