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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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alfred russel

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 26, 2019, 10:07:58 AM
It has 50 5 star reviews on Amazon.

I read that, not knowing who those people were, and just assumed that what you posted was a dystopian novel similar to the Handmaid's Tale.

"When it was over, none of us felt good about it. But we'd long since learned feelings were a poor guide. We'd done the right thing," seemed to point in that direction, as an opening for further development. I guess that wasn't the case!
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

alfred russel

Quote from: Threviel on March 26, 2019, 11:11:36 AM
There is a difference between casual racism and wanting to burn people alive. That shit is isis level.

But of course, now that I think about, Hardcore History had an episode on lynchings and other forms of public punishment that asked the question about whether people today would flock to that kind of entertainment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington is only about a hundred years ago. Perhaps the veneer of civilization is slowly being scraped off.

Civilization was built with public executions in the background. I'm not sure when they ended in Europe: I guess the 40s?

I think the last 80 or so years are the exception rather than the norm, but there are plenty of modern outlets for people to get their snuff fetish fix.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

The Brain

The last public execution in Sweden was in 1876.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

alfred russel

Quote from: The Brain on March 26, 2019, 11:38:08 AM
The last public execution in Sweden was in 1876.

Michigan hasn't executed anyone since 1830.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Oexmelin

Quote from: alfred russel on March 26, 2019, 11:31:59 AM
Civilization was built with public executions in the background. I'm not sure when they ended in Europe: I guess the 40s?

I think the last 80 or so years are the exception rather than the norm, but there are plenty of modern outlets for people to get their snuff fetish fix.

It was a long process which began in the 18th century with the slow decline of torture and the first expressions of revulsion at public displays of violence. As it declined in Europe, that public violence was exported to the colonial world made increasingly "other" .

The last public execution in Canada was in 1879. In France, it was in 1939.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Threviel

I believe St Augustine talked about the lure of the arena, or perhaps some other early christian.

Perhaps most people just pretended to dislike public punishments. That masturbatory violence porn indicates that there are lots of cold hearted sadists around.

celedhring

The last execution in Spain was in 1975, pretty much in Franco's death throes. The DP was then abolished by the 1978 democratic constitution. It had been (briefly) abolished during the Second Republic in the 1930s.

The Larch

Quote from: celedhring on March 26, 2019, 02:01:11 PM
The last execution in Spain was in 1975, pretty much in Franco's death throes. The DP was then abolished by the 1978 democratic constitution. It had been (briefly) abolished during the Second Republic in the 1930s.

It has to be mentioned too that the method of execution, the "garrote vil" was also particulary gruesome.

Admiral Yi

I know what a garrote is, what does the vil part mean?

The Larch


celedhring

It was called this way because originally it was the execution method reserved for commoners (villanos).

derspiess

East Germany continued using the guillotine well into the 60s.  After that they'd just shoot you in the back of the head.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

Quote from: Threviel on March 26, 2019, 11:11:36 AM
There is a difference between casual racism and wanting to burn people alive. That shit is isis level.


That little part of the book isn't racist.  It's sexist to a psychotic degree.  But don't worry there is plenty of racism in the book.  The book is fairly similar to the Turner Diaries, a novel written in the 1970's by a Nazi.  It sold moderately well in at gun shows in the 1990's and inspired the Oklahoma city bombing.  There is a big difference though: The Turner Diaries were written by some nobody out in West Virginia.  Lind was a Washington insider, a military lecturer and a conservative columnist.  His ideas are becoming mainstream.  The phrase "Cultural Marxism" has gained common currency in the American Right.  It's used by people in the Trump administration. It's important for the rest of us to know what they are talking about and to know what they want.  And William Lind, the man who did more than anyone else to spread this "Cultural Marxism" conspiracy theory, tells us exactly what he wants in his novel Victoria.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall