What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Jacob]

Yeah, I love how the lesson that progressives took from right/nationalist Trump winning over left/centrist Clinton was that they need to move further to the left. Say what?

The logic is, I think, is:

1) That a fired up base is powerful and useful
2) There's enough discontent that more radical politics are more acceptable to a wider group, while politics as usual is unappealing. "Here's our fix to the real problems!"

Whether it's true or not, I'm not sure, but that's the argument I've been hearing.

[garbon]

Yeah, I love how the lesson that progressives took from right/nationalist Trump winning over left/centrist Clinton was that they need to move further to the left. Say what?

The logic is, I think, is:

1) That a fired up base is powerful and useful
2) There's enough discontent that more radical politics are more acceptable to a wider group, while politics as usual is unappealing. "Here's our fix to the real problems!"

Whether it's true or not, I'm not sure, but that's the argument I've been hearing.

It seems to be arguments derived from a starting point that assumes pushing for a more progressive policy is always best.

[garbon]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/381964-one-in-five-americans-has-attended-a-protest-or-rally-since

1 in 5 Americans has attended a protest or rally since 2016: poll

About 20 percent of Americans say they have attended a protest or political rally since 2016, according to a Washington Post poll released Friday.

The Washington Post–Kaiser Family Foundation poll found that tens of millions of Americans, about 1 in 5, say they have attended an in-person political rally or mass protest since the beginning of 2016.

Of those Americans, 19 percent said they had never before attended a similar event, suggesting a wave of activism that could be felt in this year's midterm elections.

Out of the group of Americans who said they have attended a rally or protest since 2016, 70 percent are opposed to President Trump and say they do not support his agenda, compared with 30 percent who said they attended rallies while supporting the president.

A full third of Americans who have protested since the beginning of 2016 say they plan to attend future political events or volunteer for a congressional campaign this year.

"This confirms there is a resistance and that a lot of people want to be associated with it," Georgetown University history professor Michael Kazin told the Post.

Eighty-nine percent of those surveyed who said they had attended a political event said they planned to vote in the upcoming elections. Democrats are hoping to retake the House and Senate in November; they will need a net gain of 23 seats to take over the majority in the House and a net gain of two seats in the Senate.

Democrats currently hold about an 8-point advantage over Republicans on a generic House ballot, the Cook Political Report notes, and a recent Morning Consult poll showed President Trump with a 41 percent approval rating with 54 percent of those surveyed disapproving of his job as president.

Still, winning back the House could prove a tough climb, and the Senate map heavily favors the GOP, with Democrats defending 26 incumbent seats, compared to only 9 seats for Republicans.

My people!

[Valmy]

So where are the other Dem candidates?

I just hope they are not Oprah or some other celebrity.

[dps]

I may be completely wrong about this, but I suspect that Hillary will run again.

[Habbaku]

If the Democrats ran her again, they'd deserve to lose again.

[crazy canuck]

If the Democrats ran her again, they'd deserve to lose again.

She lost to Trump.  Hard to think of four more damning words

[Jacob]

I may be completely wrong about this, but I suspect that Hillary will run again.

Suspect or hope?

[garbon]

I don't see that likely.

[Sophie Scholl]

Gee, the former Republicans who have reluctantly become Democrats think the Democratic Party should move more to the center/ right.  Color me shocked.  I think the Democrats need to actually come up with a coherent plan of where they want to go and who they want to be other than just, "We're not Trump!".  Trump won't last forever and it seems a weak effort to have your sole appeal be that rallying cry and idea.  Use it as a hook, but have something to actually deliver as well.

[DGuller]

Agreed.  Democrats should have clearly defined ideas, and they shouldn't be meekly apologizing for having them.  In a way they do have ideas, they're a pragmatic social-democratic party, but they sure are shy about running on that platform openly.

[dps]

I may be completely wrong about this, but I suspect that Hillary will run again.

Suspect or hope?

Suspect; Trump/Clinton round 2 would still be a lose-lose situation for the country.

[Habbaku]

Eh. It'd be a win/lose. Clinton is still an improvement over Trump.

[dps]

Eh. It'd be a win/lose. Clinton is still an improvement over Trump.

Agree, but that's an awfully low bar.

[Eddie Teach]

Draw, lose?