Restaurants in Malaysia told to rename hot dogs or be banned

[garbon]

Yes, you do look like an idiot.

[Valmy]

Why should we worry about how other people want to call their food? 

A government agency that is going to ban you unless you name your shit a certain thing is pretty obnoxious. Certainly does not reflect well on Malaysia but besides that no big deal.

[Razgovory]

Yes, you do look like an idiot.

In fairness, so does Hamilcar.

[Malthus]

Heh, I have been told that a government agency in Canada has stated that one cannot label a liquid product made from almonds as "almond milk", but rather it must be called an "almond beverage" or something of that sort.

The reason?

Despite the fact that "almond milk" is widely known as the name for this product, under Canadian food regulations, "milk" is a regulated term that means a dairy product made from the secretions of animals; putting a name before it, as in "[named flavor] milk", means a flavored type of milk, as in "chocolate milk". The concern is customer confusion - in theory, if a customer sees "almond milk", they may think it refers to "milk flavored with almond flavoring". In reality, even if no customers are confused, the regs create a standard for a product known as "milk" that only fits dairy-type products, and the bureaucrats are reluctant to make exceptions, except through legislative changes.

This sort of thing is totally standard in food regulation, happens all the time. 

[alfred russel]

But that is Canada, which not remains under the tyranny of the crown of the UK (from which we liberated ourselves in 1776) but also is drifting toward sharia law in its legal system (as I've learned in some right wing blogs).

[Berkut]

God damnit.

You know, I believe that there is a real problem with Islam, and how it is practiced and the practical effects it has on human liberty, social equality, and justice.

What you call a fucking mystery meat tube on a menu in order to be considered compliant with particular religious specific rules doesn't really rise to the level of concern that honor killing, death sentences for apostates, state mandated religious instruction, and suppression of religious freedom for other Muslims and non-Muslims might suggest.

Fucking hot dogs. Really?

[Agelastus]

Why should we worry about how other people want to call their food? 

A government agency that is going to ban you unless you name your shit a certain thing is pretty obnoxious. Certainly does not reflect well on Malaysia but besides that no big deal.

As pointed out above, the article merely says that they will be refused Halal certification unless they change the name, not that the product will be banned if they don't change the name.

They can keep the name "Hot Dog" and not be Halal certified - since the company probably made the request for certification themselves I don't see a problem in the certification authority issuing conditions.

[Razgovory]

I didn't think Hot dogs were Halal to begin with.

[Malthus]

But that is Canada, which not remains under the tyranny of the crown of the UK (from which we liberated ourselves in 1776) but also is drifting toward sharia law in its legal system (as I've learned in some right wing blogs).

The US FDA is urged to take a similar approach:

http://www.nmpf.org/imitation-dairy-products

[HVC]

I didn't think Hot dogs were Halal to begin with.

They make hotdogs with cow anuses instead of pig anuses too, you know.

[HVC]

But that is Canada, which not remains under the tyranny of the crown of the UK (from which we liberated ourselves in 1776) but also is drifting toward sharia law in its legal system (as I've learned in some right wing blogs).

The US FDA is urged to take a similar approach:

http://www.nmpf.org/imitation-dairy-products

Good.  Nut milks taste bad and use a shit load of water not only to grow but produce (and in they're grown and made in drought states). This fad needs to go away.

also website using hard pressed made me giggle.  See, why can't languish puns be good like that

[The Brain]

Fucking hot dogs. Really?

Oh yes.

[Hamilcar]

Fucking hot dogs. Really?

Oh yes.

Only get the ones *with* preservatives.

[derspiess]

It's far from an outrage, but the backlash against the OP is puzzling.  Not being able to call a hot dog a hot dog is just silly, regardless of where you are.

[garbon]

It's far from an outrage, but the backlash against the OP is puzzling.  Not being able to call a hot dog a hot dog is just silly, regardless of where you are.

Because it is a weak Marti freak out? Who cares what they are doing in Malaysia about what a hot dog can be called at a certified halal restaurant?