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Started by mongers, August 04, 2016, 08:32:57 AM

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Syt

At least two reported dead at an attack on a synagogue in Manchester. :(
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Crazy_Ivan80

Weren't there arrests in Germany yesterday against (suspected) hamas trash?
They've got lots of places to hide, and lots of supporters.

Razgovory

Well someone was globalizing the intifada this morning.
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Josquius

Quote from: Syt on October 02, 2025, 06:42:38 AMAt least two reported dead at an attack on a synagogue in Manchester. :(

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/03/manchester-synagogue-attack-police-name-two-victims-killed

Seems it could have been much worse. The police reacted quick and the guy made his bomb wrong.
We should be thankful that gun control worked as well.

Curious point is that as well as the attacker the cops have arrested some others too.
Terrible for the victims but I do think there's reason to be thankful this could have been far worse.
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Sheilbh

I think that just suggests it is terrorism, no?

It's very grim.
Let's bomb Russia!

HVC

Read that one of the victims was actually shot and killed by a responding officer? Is that right? That's both very crappy training and probably devastating for the cop themselves. Although I doubt that's of any comfort for the family.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

Yeah - I agree. Although I don't think you can blame the training. The two victims were among those barricading the door to keep the attacker out. They were behind a door keeping the attacker out when the police shot him, killing one man behind the door and wounding another.

Melvin Cravitz was stabbed to death by the attacker trying to keep him out the gate, while the other man, Adrian Daulby, was accidentally shot by the police while they were shooting the attacker - basically he was behind the synagogue door holding it shut.

Another man, Yoni Finlay, was also barricading the door and is in hospital being treated for shooting injuries.
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HVC

Thanks for the clarification sheilbh. Still seems like bad training to fire at a suspect armed with a "only" a knife when victims are behind a door. Unless I guess the criminal is coming at you. But police policy and procedure is obviously not my expertise.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

They thought he was in a suicide vest - he had what looked like a bomb strapped to his waist:


Bomb disposal was called in and after the controlled explosion the police have said the device was "not viable". But obviously they weren't really to know.
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HVC

Well then I was wrong   :blush:
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

No it makes sense - I think things are always unclear in these sort of stories and lots of incomplete facts with details emerging slowly.

But from everything I've read and seen, there's been nothing but praise for the police response and it's a tragic accident that caused one of the casualties.
Let's bomb Russia!

Crazy_Ivan80

at this point the Trojans have basically removed the gates to get that horse inside the walls...