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Started by mongers, August 04, 2016, 08:32:57 AM

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HVC

He was shooting from the 32nd floor. You (or at least I) forget how deadly firearms can still be at range.
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Berkut

Quote from: HVC on October 02, 2017, 07:49:18 AM
He was shooting from the 32nd floor. You (or at least I) forget how deadly firearms can still be at range.

Initial reports sound like he was using an automatic weapon spraying into a dense crowd. If he was 400 feet up, and shooting across the street, that means he is firing at a range of, what...200 meters or so? Maybe 300m?

That isn't far at all for a high powered rifle or some kind of light machine gun.
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Malicious Intent

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What's the effective range of an assault rifle? Around 200-300 meters?

Guess the height made the guns even more effective. Firing from an elevated position into a large and tightly packed crowd with a fully automatic weapon probably results in lot's of hits to the head and upper torso area.


Edit: Thanks to Berkut for addressing my question in advance.

Berkut

Quote from: Malicious Intent on October 02, 2017, 08:46:59 AM
What's the effective range of an assault rifle? Around 200-300 meters?


Yeah, generally your effective engagement range for an assault rifle is considered to be about 300m. But that is for engaging point targets, where you are trying to hit a particular person without a scope. Effective area target range is more like 500-800m. And it will kill out to a 1200m+, I am sure.

I think with a scope you could hit point targets out to 600+ with something like an M-16, which is considered pretty accurate for an assault rifle. My guess is that even more modern ones are more accurate and deadly.
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grumbler

Quote from: Berkut on October 02, 2017, 08:42:19 AM
Initial reports sound like he was using an automatic weapon spraying into a dense crowd. If he was 400 feet up, and shooting across the street, that means he is firing at a range of, what...200 meters or so? Maybe 300m?

That isn't far at all for a high powered rifle or some kind of light machine gun.

The gunman was shooting into a crowd about a block away. 
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HVC

selling something that can kill multiple people in short order from 1200m away being legal sounds so weird to my canuck head.
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Malthus

It is early days and could all change, but so far, from what I glean from the news, no known motive, no links to any terrorism, no significant police history, his "companion" out of the country and not considered involved ... and he killed himself.

Looks like we just aren't going to get answers as to motive, other than some version of going postal.
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HVC

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Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

Probably lost all his money at the Casinos.
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dps

Quote from: HVC on October 02, 2017, 07:49:18 AM
He was shooting from the 32nd floor. You (or at least I) forget how deadly firearms can still be at range.

Heck, throw the bullets out the window from that height into a crowd and you're probably going to get some kills.

Josquius

Is this one terrorism? No word on any motive yet and he wasn't targeting a particular group.
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Malicious Intent

Quote from: Tyr on October 02, 2017, 04:00:59 PM
Is this one terrorism? No word on any motive yet and he wasn't targeting a particular group.

Looked like a terror attack in the beginning, but with all we know now, it looks more like "just" some psycho's killing spree.