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Admiral Yi

#1530
March 17, 2021, 11:23:57 AM
Someone didn't get a happy ending.

Razgovory

#1531
March 17, 2021, 11:27:42 AM
The suspect claims it wasn't about race, but rather that he has a sex addiction.  I don't know what to say about that.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob

#1532
March 17, 2021, 11:39:45 AM
I guess if he was addicted to sex, had a preference for Korean sex workers, and acted out of sexual frustration then it'd be a terrorist act driven by misogyny, but with racial elements.

As opposed to if he hated Asians and decided to take it out on sex workers, in which case it'd be a terrorist act driven by racism, but with misogynist elements.

I don't know, does that type of distinction make a difference in a legal context? Because it doesn't make him any less shitty IMO.

Sheilbh

#1533
March 17, 2021, 12:03:31 PM
Agreed. I'm not sure it makes a huge amount of difference whether he seems to have been mainly a racist or mainly a misogynist. Perhaps it makes a difference under US hate crime laws? :mellow:
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grumbler

#1534
March 17, 2021, 12:27:05 PM
Not all hate crimes are terrorism.  Not all terrorist acts are hate crimes.  Conflating the two adds nothing to our understanding and just confuses the issue.
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Syt

#1535
March 17, 2021, 12:52:19 PM
Statement by police official:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713

"He was pretty much fed up, and kinda at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did."
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Razgovory

#1536
March 17, 2021, 12:55:12 PM
Quote from: Jacob on March 17, 2021, 11:39:45 AM
I guess if he was addicted to sex, had a preference for Korean sex workers, and acted out of sexual frustration then it'd be a terrorist act driven by misogyny, but with racial elements.

As opposed to if he hated Asians and decided to take it out on sex workers, in which case it'd be a terrorist act driven by racism, but with misogynist elements.

I don't know, does that type of distinction make a difference in a legal context? Because it doesn't make him any less shitty IMO.

Or those were the only sex workers he knew about.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HisMajestyBOB

#1537
March 17, 2021, 01:14:16 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 17, 2021, 12:52:19 PM
Statement by police official:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713

"He was pretty much fed up, and kinda at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did."

Just had a bad day, murdered a few people, you know how it is. Could've happened to anyone, really.
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Habbaku

#1538
March 17, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 17, 2021, 01:14:16 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 17, 2021, 12:52:19 PM
Statement by police official:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713

"He was pretty much fed up, and kinda at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did."

Just had a bad day, murdered a few people, you know how it is. Could've happened to anyone, really.

Watching the clip, it makes it seem to me more like the police are trying to establish that, no, he wasn't insane and he understood what he was doing so that he can't use that as a defense?
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HisMajestyBOB

#1539
March 17, 2021, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on March 17, 2021, 01:18:53 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 17, 2021, 01:14:16 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 17, 2021, 12:52:19 PM
Statement by police official:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713

"He was pretty much fed up, and kinda at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did."

Just had a bad day, murdered a few people, you know how it is. Could've happened to anyone, really.

Watching the clip, it makes it seem to me more like the police are trying to establish that, no, he wasn't insane and he understood what he was doing so that he can't use that as a defense?

Gotcha, I didn't see the clip yet.
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Razgovory

#1540
March 17, 2021, 10:29:09 PM
My mom always has MSNBC on and so I catch snippets from that occasionally, and frankly it's weird right now.  When this recent attack on the message parlor gals occurred I certainly thought it was possible that it could be another deranged Trump supporter inspired by Trump's rhetoric.  MSNBC openly speculated about that scenario, but when the evidence came out that this wasn't the case they kept talking like it was.  Maybe they have information they haven't revealed yet, and it is possible that new information will come out to change the narrative, but right now we don't have evidence that this is some sort of political act.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Eddie Teach

#1541
March 18, 2021, 06:21:33 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on March 17, 2021, 01:14:16 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 17, 2021, 12:52:19 PM
Statement by police official:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713

"He was pretty much fed up, and kinda at the end of his rope, and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did."

Just had a bad day, murdered a few people, you know how it is. Could've happened to anyone, really.

I don't like Mondays.  :sleep:
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DGuller

#1542
March 19, 2021, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 17, 2021, 10:29:09 PM
My mom always has MSNBC on and so I catch snippets from that occasionally, and frankly it's weird right now.  When this recent attack on the message parlor gals occurred I certainly thought it was possible that it could be another deranged Trump supporter inspired by Trump's rhetoric.  MSNBC openly speculated about that scenario, but when the evidence came out that this wasn't the case they kept talking like it was.  Maybe they have information they haven't revealed yet, and it is possible that new information will come out to change the narrative, but right now we don't have evidence that this is some sort of political act.
I think the coverage of this case is a classic example of how cancel culture makes everyone concerned about saying things carefully rather than objectively.

viper37

#1543
March 19, 2021, 03:13:42 PM
Quote from: Jacob on March 17, 2021, 11:39:45 AM
I guess if he was addicted to sex, had a preference for Korean sex workers, and acted out of sexual frustration then it'd be a terrorist act driven by misogyny, but with racial elements.

As opposed to if he hated Asians and decided to take it out on sex workers, in which case it'd be a terrorist act driven by racism, but with misogynist elements.

I don't know, does that type of distinction make a difference in a legal context? Because it doesn't make him any less shitty IMO.
He might be trying to plead some form of insanity defense.
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merithyn

#1544
March 19, 2021, 03:27:54 PM
As I understood it, he was trying to save other men from the temptation of sex workers. However, these were not sex workers.

Yet another example of men blaming women for their inability to keep it in their pants. Bet he was a Christian fundy.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...
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