Kepler hauls in 100 new planets, 4 Earth-like planets in one solar system

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jimmy olsen

Sounds good, but I thought that planets so close to a star, even a small calm one like a red dwarf are in danger from solar flares. :hmm:

http://www.astronomy.com/news/2016/07/kepler-hauls-in-hundreds-of-new-planets-in-its-phoenix-like-new-mission

QuoteKepler hauls in 100 new planets in its phoenix-like new mission

The new haul includes four Earth-like planets in one solar system

By Anna Nowogrodzki  |  Published: Thursday, July 21, 2016

NASA's Kepler space telescope is a trooper. Even with a broken positioning system, the telescope just discovered 104 new planets, including four Earth-like planets in the same solar system.

A study published this week in the Astrophysical Journal Supplement Series describes the largest haul of planets so far during K2, Kepler's second mission. Kepler was originally designed to look at a very tiny area of space, but it was repurposed to look at a wider area when part of its positioning system broke in 2013.

This means K2 looks at smaller, cooler, red dwarf stars than Kepler's original mission, so it has a better chance of finding Earth-like planets. "The original Kepler mission showed us that stars smaller than the Sun probably have more small planets that orbit around them," says lead author Ian Crossfield of the University of Arizona. "But Kepler only looked at a relatively small number of these small, cool, red stars. K2 is looking at 10 or 20 times as many of these stars."

These stars are also the most common kind near us, meaning the planets that orbit them are easier to study in more detail.

Perhaps the most interesting treasures in this trove are four roughly Earth-sized planets located in the same solar system 181 light years from us. Based on the planets' size, between 20 and 50 percent larger than Earth, they are probably rocky. Two of the planets probably get light radiation levels similar to Earth's. The solar system's star, an M dwarf star called K2-72, is dimmer than our Sun and about half its size. The four planets are even closer to their star than Mercury is to ours, so their years are each much shorter than Earth's, ranging from five-and-a-half days to 24 days long.

Nothing is known about the four planets' atmospheres so far, but from their size, it's not impossible that life could be found there.

These 104 planets are just from K2's first year of operations. K2 will last for 4 years, so "we should expect something like four times as many of these planets" over the whole mission, says Crossfield.

Astronomers have confirmed K2's observations with Earth-based telescope observations and are currently studying some of the planets further—their atmospheres via the Hubble Space telescope, and their masses and densities via Doppler spectroscopy measurements from ground-based telescopes.

The James Webb space telescope, launching in a year and a half, will be able to fill in even more details. "K2 merely tells us a planet is there and its size is roughly this," says Crossfield. "Whereas James Webb will be able to discern the atmospheric makeup of these things, tell us how much water vapor, or methane, or carbon dioxide, or other molecular species are in the atmosphere, maybe how did they form, what are conditions like, what's the weather like on other worlds."
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2016, 07:08:19 PM
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Kepler hauls in 100 new planets in its phoenix-like new mission

The new haul includes four Earth-like planets in one solar system
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Thread title misleading?

What about:

Kepler finds 100 new planets, incl 4 Earth-like planets in single solar system
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: mongers on July 21, 2016, 08:22:01 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2016, 07:08:19 PM
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Kepler hauls in 100 new planets in its phoenix-like new mission

The new haul includes four Earth-like planets in one solar system
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Thread title misleading?

What about:

Kepler finds 100 new planets, incl 4 Earth-like planets in single solar system

My mistake, I meant to write 4,  but messed it up somehow.
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alfred russel

QuotePerhaps the most interesting treasures in this trove are four roughly Earth-sized planets located in the same solar system 181 light years from us. Based on the planets' size, between 20 and 50 percent larger than Earth, they are probably rocky. Two of the planets probably get light radiation levels similar to Earth's. The solar system's star, an M dwarf star called K2-72, is dimmer than our Sun and about half its size. The four planets are even closer to their star than Mercury is to ours, so their years are each much shorter than Earth's, ranging from five-and-a-half days to 24 days long.

Nothing is known about the four planets' atmospheres so far,

Sounds like we are taking a really expansive definition of what constitutes an "Earth-like planet."
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Hate this new fangled definition of earth like.
Makes it sound like they're.... well.... earth like.
As opposed to Mars like or mercury or Venus like.
What's wrong with the gool old terrestrial?
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jimmy olsen

QuoteTwo of the planets probably get light radiation levels similar to Earth's

These planets should be quite earth like.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 22, 2016, 01:28:42 AM
Except for the water and oxygen.
If it gets similar light radiation as Earth, why wouldn't it have water?

Mars and Venus had lots of water when the solar system formed. They lost it because of the local conditions, too close to the sun and to small respectively, but they had it. These planets are not too hot, nor too small. Why wouldn't they have water?
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Hamilcar

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 21, 2016, 07:08:19 PM
Sounds good, but I thought that planets so close to a star, even a small calm one like a red dwarf are in danger from solar flares. :hmm:

Low mass stars regularly have intense flares. Our kind of life is incompatible with red dwarfs.