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[MadBurgerMaker]

Huh.



That's a 2016 A8.  Is that the same type of shifter?

E:  Okay I've been just hanging out at work looking at stuff re: this and other shifters and......



How the hell do you put this in park?  The parking brake is down there below it, but there's....there's no P on the shifter.  Is that some sort of pure electronic manual type setup (look how to put it in reverse: left, then up) where you just put it in neutral and hit the parking break?     It has an automatic setting though if you move it to the right.

[The Brain]

"A8" sounds redundant.

[DGuller]

"A8" sounds redundant.

Unless it is a coded message. 

[DontSayBanana]

This is apparently the shifter.  It doesn't seem to be particularly confusing.     If the P is lit, it's in park......right?

You mean the P that would be hidden under his hand as he "shifts?"  And mistakes still happen- my shifter has a staggered track, indicators on the dashboard, and I've still moved to the wrong gear before.

[MadBurgerMaker]

You mean the P that would be hidden under his hand as he "shifts?"  And mistakes still happen- my shifter has a staggered track, indicators on the dashboard, and I've still moved to the wrong gear before.

Or the P on the instrument cluster.    Whichever he wants to use works fine.   And yes, mistakes happen and they are unfortunate, especially when it results in someone being killed.  Trying to blame it on the car company though?  I can see if it was actually IN park and still rolled down and hit him, definitely.  Sue the fuck out of them and try to have the "honor" of owning Chrysler, for all I care.  They would deserve it. 

But the recall thing that is being talked about is due to driver error, not a technical problem, at least not that I've seen. Their fix is  a software patch that will put it in park for the driver when they forget, not some sort of repair to the parking break or whatever.

E: I wonder if the new new ones, where they went to a different style of shifter will have that same/similar software installed. 

[11B4V]

Why didn't he set the emergency brake.

[MadBurgerMaker]

Seems like that would have been helpful, yeah.  Speaking of which, so far every time I've parked my turd rental car so far, I've mashed my foot down in the place where the parking brake is on my truck, and then look down there, like a dumbass, to see wtf is going on and why there's nothing there.  Every single time.  It's got a hand brake between the seats. 

[11B4V]

He should have read the Operators manual. Needless death and his fault. So had he pressed the brake pedal, accidentally left the transmission in gear or mistakenly thought the gear shifter was in park then engaged the parking brake, he would be alive today.

2015 Grand Cherokee.

[11B4V]

Seems like that would have been helpful, yeah.  Speaking of which, so far every time I've parked my turd rental car so far, I've mashed my foot down in the place where the parking brake is on my truck, and then look down there, like a dumbass, to see wtf is going on and why there's nothing there.  Every single time.  It's got a hand brake between the seats. 

I will not talk about an officer effecting a traffic stop, then forgetting to put the vehicle in park, not engaging the parking brake and exiting the patrol car.

[DGuller]

Seems like that would have been helpful, yeah.  Speaking of which, so far every time I've parked my turd rental car so far, I've mashed my foot down in the place where the parking brake is on my truck, and then look down there, like a dumbass, to see wtf is going on and why there's nothing there.  Every single time.  It's got a hand brake between the seats. 

I will not talk about an officer effecting a traffic stop, then forgetting to put the vehicle in park, not engaging the parking brake and exiting the patrol car.

This one?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY4Bcd2vJuo  Or are there others?

[11B4V]

Seems like that would have been helpful, yeah.  Speaking of which, so far every time I've parked my turd rental car so far, I've mashed my foot down in the place where the parking brake is on my truck, and then look down there, like a dumbass, to see wtf is going on and why there's nothing there.  Every single time.  It's got a hand brake between the seats. 

I will not talk about an officer effecting a traffic stop, then forgetting to put the vehicle in park, not engaging the parking brake and exiting the patrol car.

This one?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY4Bcd2vJuo  Or are there others?

Personal experience when I was an FTO.

[OttoVonBismarck]

In my experience kids raised on automatic transmissions almost never use their parking brake. Because in park or in gear an automatic trans won't roll on a hill unless something knocks it out of gear (which is an actual possibility--and why manuals for automatic cars still say to use the parking brake.) People who are a little older (like myself) and who were raised on stick shift are used to the idea that the parking brake is what keeps your car from rolling on an every day basis, and so use of it is as automatic as breathing.

[MadBurgerMaker]

I will not talk about an officer effecting a traffic stop, then forgetting to put the vehicle in park, not engaging the parking brake and exiting the patrol car.

  Welp.

[viper37]

How the hell do you put this in park? 

Below the shifter, to the right on your 2nd image, there's  a "P >>>" symbol.  That's park, I guess.

[Malthus]

Heh. Every car expert and manual says to use the parking brake every time you park with an automatic transmission; I'm willing to bet less than 10% of automatic transmission car owners actually do so.