Weekend Work Emails Are Now Illegal In France

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Capetan Mihali

The sadder thing is that people IMHO increasingly find their family lives so unfulfilling or their individual private lives so empty that they've come to see checking work email, and doing remote work, on the weekends as a crutch.  It's just such an excellent excuse for not interacting with family or friends face-to-face, and the according social burden (and, of course, immense benefit for most).
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grumbler

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 28, 2016, 01:14:44 AM
A successful person is one who is obliged to reply to his work emails at the weekend?

Interesting  :hmm:

Or, you could look at it as "a successful person is paid to reply to his or her work emails on the weekend."  I'm fine with that requirement as long as it is understood up front.
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Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 29, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
The sadder thing is that people IMHO increasingly find their family lives so unfulfilling or their individual private lives so empty that they've come to see checking work email, and doing remote work, on the weekends as a crutch.  It's just such an excellent excuse for not interacting with family or friends face-to-face, and the according social burden (and, of course, immense benefit for most).

It has nothing to do with unfulfilled private lives, it has everything to do with unfulfilled work lives.

Answering emails from home, working remotely, etc...that's all symptomatic of the same reasons Americans are leading the western world in unused paid vacation time:  fear of being seen as replaceable, fear of showing a lack of commitment to leadership who stay plugged in, fear in failing to prove they can get things done. 

People are scared fucking shitless about the empty cubicles to their left and their right that once used to be filled with coworkers. So yeah, you better check that email at 8:45pm, because you never know if it's going to be your ass.  In this day and age, missing that email may be the one that costs you your motherfucking home.

"An excellent excuse."  What the fuck ever, man.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 29, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
The sadder thing is that people IMHO increasingly find their family lives so unfulfilling or their individual private lives so empty that they've come to see checking work email, and doing remote work, on the weekends as a crutch.  It's just such an excellent excuse for not interacting with family or friends face-to-face, and the according social burden (and, of course, immense benefit for most).
I get the impression that Americans used to derive a lot of their identity and meaning from their work. I think that's going global now. In part it's sad that people aren't interacting face to face, on the other hand I think it's because they're getting purpose from having to work and being needed.
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garbon

So, I don't actually check work email on weekends or evenings any more. Why bother when my colleagues and clients are Europeans?
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Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
So, I don't actually check work email on weekends or evenings any more. Why bother when my colleagues and clients are Europeans?

Thanks what you like to think; maybe they're emailing each other, but decided to keep Garbon out of the loop?    :P
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Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
So, I don't actually check work email on weekends or evenings any more. Why bother when my colleagues and clients are Europeans?

:thumbsup:

I've been reading criticisms of the way the French organise their economy for 40 years now. It is sclerotic, too many non-jobs, too few working hours, too many sinecures, too much welfare, the entire country is on holiday all of August etc etc

One can see that there are some truths in the mix, on the other hand they carry on being about as rich per capita as the British and Germans.

mongers

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 29, 2016, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
So, I don't actually check work email on weekends or evenings any more. Why bother when my colleagues and clients are Europeans?

:thumbsup:

I've been reading criticisms of the way the French organise their economy for 40 years now. It is sclerotic, too many non-jobs, too few working hours, too many sinecures, too much welfare, the entire country is on holiday all of August etc etc

One can see that there are some truths in the mix, on the other hand they carry on being about as rich per capita as the British and Germans.

Yes it's an interesting question; maybe us Brits do a lot of non-productive activity at work?  :bowler:
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The Brain

Quote from: mongers on May 29, 2016, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 29, 2016, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
So, I don't actually check work email on weekends or evenings any more. Why bother when my colleagues and clients are Europeans?

:thumbsup:

I've been reading criticisms of the way the French organise their economy for 40 years now. It is sclerotic, too many non-jobs, too few working hours, too many sinecures, too much welfare, the entire country is on holiday all of August etc etc

One can see that there are some truths in the mix, on the other hand they carry on being about as rich per capita as the British and Germans.

Yes it's an interesting question; maybe us Brits do a lot of non-productive activity at work?  :bowler:

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mongers

Quote from: The Brain on May 29, 2016, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: mongers on May 29, 2016, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on May 29, 2016, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
So, I don't actually check work email on weekends or evenings any more. Why bother when my colleagues and clients are Europeans?

:thumbsup:

I've been reading criticisms of the way the French organise their economy for 40 years now. It is sclerotic, too many non-jobs, too few working hours, too many sinecures, too much welfare, the entire country is on holiday all of August etc etc

One can see that there are some truths in the mix, on the other hand they carry on being about as rich per capita as the British and Germans.

Yes it's an interesting question; maybe us Brits do a lot of non-productive activity at work?  :bowler:

Tea and strumpets?

That's no way to talk about HR.
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Martinus

God, this forum seems to be overrun by millennials and ageing hippies.

mongers

Quote from: Martinus on May 29, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
God, this forum seems to be overrun by millennials and ageing hippies.

You could, you know ...... post somewhere else.   :moon:
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Quote from: Martinus on May 29, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
God, this forum seems to be overrun by millennials and ageing hippies.

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Martinus

Believing in hard work makes you fascist now?  :lol:

mongers

Quote from: Martinus on May 29, 2016, 12:58:43 PM
Believing in hard work makes you fascist now?  :lol:

Believing in the importance of appearing to work hard and efficiently, might be a sign of fascistic tendencies, yes.
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