Weekend Work Emails Are Now Illegal In France

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MadImmortalMan

#90
May 29, 2016, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 29, 2016, 10:00:39 AM
It has nothing to do with unfulfilled private lives, it has everything to do with unfulfilled work lives.

I'll go with this as well.

Also, because frankly the way most workplaces are designed is just bad for the human psyche even under the best of conditions.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

mongers

#91
May 29, 2016, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 29, 2016, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 29, 2016, 10:00:39 AM
It has nothing to do with unfulfilled private lives, it has everything to do with unfulfilled work lives.

I'll go with this as well.

Also, because frankly the way most workplaces are designed is just bad for the human psyche even under the best of conditions.

fyp.
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MadImmortalMan

#92
May 29, 2016, 02:06:24 PM
Oh, no. Work is good for your mind. People need to feel productive in order to be happy.
"Stability is destabilizing." --Hyman Minsky

"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Razgovory

#93
May 29, 2016, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 29, 2016, 12:58:43 PM
Believing in hard work makes you fascist now?  :lol:

No, it's the other weird stuff you been on about lately.  I do wonder if your political turnabout is because you have a crush on that Milo guy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Brain

#94
May 29, 2016, 03:11:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 29, 2016, 03:07:37 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 29, 2016, 12:58:43 PM
Believing in hard work makes you fascist now?  :lol:

No, it's the other weird stuff you been on about lately.  I do wonder if your political turnabout is because you have a crush on that Milo guy.

:o No way!
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

garbon

#95
May 29, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
Because a gay person can't like someone without adopting his views? :angry:
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

#96
May 29, 2016, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 29, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
Because a gay person can't like someone without adopting his views? :angry:

We are talking about Marty here.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Capetan Mihali

#97
May 29, 2016, 04:05:48 PM Last Edit: May 29, 2016, 04:10:21 PM by Capetan Mihali
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 29, 2016, 10:00:39 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 29, 2016, 09:32:55 AM
The sadder thing is that people IMHO increasingly find their family lives so unfulfilling or their individual private lives so empty that they've come to see checking work email, and doing remote work, on the weekends as a crutch.  It's just such an excellent excuse for not interacting with family or friends face-to-face, and the according social burden (and, of course, immense benefit for most).

It has nothing to do with unfulfilled private lives, it has everything to do with unfulfilled work lives.

Answering emails from home, working remotely, etc...that's all symptomatic of the same reasons Americans are leading the western world in unused paid vacation time:  fear of being seen as replaceable, fear of showing a lack of commitment to leadership who stay plugged in, fear in failing to prove they can get things done. 

People are scared fucking shitless about the empty cubicles to their left and their right that once used to be filled with coworkers. So yeah, you better check that email at 8:45pm, because you never know if it's going to be your ass.  In this day and age, missing that email may be the one that costs you your motherfucking home.

"An excellent excuse."  What the fuck ever, man.

:huh: I don't disagree at all.  But I think the one feeds the other; people are terrified of losing their jobs, which leads them to do work during their private time, which in turn gives them a reason for focusing on their work to the detriment of other factors in their life, things that ought to be important but are relegated to being inconveniences because of the destructive work climate.  The unfulfilled personal lives are a direct result of people's work situations, but that doesn't mean that work can't also be a way of avoiding engagement in other meaningful parts of life.
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)

Sheilbh

#98
May 29, 2016, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 29, 2016, 02:06:24 PM
Oh, no. Work is good for your mind. People need to feel productive in order to be happy.
Protestant  :rolleyes:

QuoteNo, it's the other weird stuff you been on about lately.  I do wonder if your political turnabout is because you have a crush on that Milo guy.
Oh dear.
Let's bomb Russia!

Martinus

#99
May 30, 2016, 12:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 29, 2016, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 29, 2016, 02:06:24 PM
Oh, no. Work is good for your mind. People need to feel productive in order to be happy.
Protestant  :rolleyes:

You mean like the Pope?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1180432/pope-francis-work-is-necessary-for-human-dignity/

Razgovory

#100
May 30, 2016, 01:57:17 AM
Shelf, I thought you went High Anglican.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Sheilbh

#101
May 30, 2016, 06:56:36 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 30, 2016, 12:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 29, 2016, 05:22:50 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 29, 2016, 02:06:24 PM
Oh, no. Work is good for your mind. People need to feel productive in order to be happy.
Protestant  :rolleyes:

You mean like the Pope?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1180432/pope-francis-work-is-necessary-for-human-dignity/
In contrast to unemployment :P

I'm fairly sure Frank would back me in saying people should derive their happiness from their family and their relationships (he'd probably add something about God) not their employment. Anyway I agree with him.

QuoteShelf, I thought you went High Anglican.
Who knew anyone could make Benedict look butch? :o

I'm not really anything, really.
Let's bomb Russia!

CountDeMoney

#102
May 30, 2016, 08:41:37 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 30, 2016, 06:56:36 AM
I'm not really anything, really.

You're a Huckabee fan, and that says everything.

Sheilbh

#103
May 30, 2016, 09:51:21 AM
The Republicans would be far better off if they'd gone with Huck in 2008.

I don't like his later work :P
Let's bomb Russia!

Capetan Mihali

#104
May 30, 2016, 01:45:52 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 30, 2016, 09:51:21 AM
I don't like his later work :P

The Mike Huckabee deep cuts just aren't as catchy as his hit singles were.
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)
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