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Started by alfred russel, May 09, 2016, 12:35:53 PM

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alfred russel

May 09, 2016, 12:35:53 PM
I thought about pretending to know stuff about this guy, but really I just saw this John Oliver segment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N49D3tmjS94

And it seems he is actually set to win.

So...is this the point the world has gone mad? Perhaps there is a model with:

a) joy from LOL at trolling leaders, vs.
b) per capita impact of bad policies,

And we are reaching the global point where:
a) media and internet saturation maximizes joy from trolling leaders, while
b) large populations, the global economy, and a global consensus on many issues reduces the risk of bad policies

And thus democracy fails?
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Phillip V

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May 09, 2016, 12:42:29 PM
False.  United States to Elect American Rodrigo Duterte.

Barrister

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May 09, 2016, 12:43:20 PM
Well Trump-like leaders have been elected pretty frequently in developing countries.  Trump has been called a caudillo candidate by more than a few.  Trump's candidacy also bears a lot of similarity to Berlusconi in Italy.

But also... politics have always been a bit wonky in the Phillippines.  The current president is the son of former president Cory Acquino.  A prior president, Joseph Estrada, was a film star before entering into politics (and was removed from office for corruption three years later).

The outrage at Trump was thinking that these kinds of antics might work in some developing country, but not a "mature democracy" like the US.  Guess not though.
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Valmy

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May 09, 2016, 01:06:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 09, 2016, 12:43:20 PM
but not a "mature democracy" like the US.

Mature? We elected Jesse "The Body" Ventura to a governorship.
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May 09, 2016, 01:47:18 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 09, 2016, 01:06:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 09, 2016, 12:43:20 PM
but not a "mature democracy" like the US.

Mature? We elected Jesse "The Body" Ventura to a governorship.

"We"?  I didn't vote in Minnesota.
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Admiral Yi

#5
May 09, 2016, 01:52:29 PM
The Body was a good governor.

Valmy

#6
May 09, 2016, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 09, 2016, 01:47:18 PM
"We"?  I didn't vote in Minnesota.

But if you did vote in Minnesota you would have also sent Stuart Smalley to the Senate :P
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derspiess

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May 09, 2016, 02:47:14 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 09, 2016, 01:55:11 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on May 09, 2016, 01:47:18 PM
"We"?  I didn't vote in Minnesota.

But if you did vote in Minnesota you would have also sent Stuart Smalley to the Senate :P

But only by the slimmest of margins, and after a re-count.
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May 09, 2016, 02:49:39 PM
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