Trump of the Will: The Donald's foreign policy and his team, it's the best team

[Razgovory]

So is he proposing the US impose tribute on other countries?

[Jaron]

We could institute our version of the danegeld.

[CountDeMoney]

Told that sanctions under United States law still bar most American companies from doing business with Iran, he said: "So, how stupid is that? We give them the money and we now say, 'Go buy Airbus instead of Boeing,' right?"

He does kind of have a point there.  Not that I want to defend anything Trump says or does.

And what point is that?

[celedhring]

That Trump should go to Congress and get those sanctions repealed, naturally.

[Razgovory]

I think Trump and dps are under the impression we are giving them money.  As far as I know the closest to giving them money is that the US is returning money it took from Iran.

[Sophie Scholl]

Making a fraudulent seal used to obtain a high ranking government position the emblem of the inspector general's office would be funny in its own way, and something I'd expect from a member of Donald Drumpf's team.

I wikied to check, and it looks like von Steuben was legit.  Maybe de Kalb?

Which one was the Kraut that drilled the army at Valley Forge?

That's weird, I thought it was pretty common knowledge that von Steuben wasn't actually an aristocrat. Strange that his wiki page doesn't even mention the idea in passing somewhere.

Nah, AFAIK the "von" was legit--he was a member of the aristocracy, though it was the lower aristocracy.  OTOH, he did apparently rather inflate his service record from the Prussian Army.

De Kalb wasn't born into the aristocracy, but was elevated to the French nobility for distinguished military service.

This.  He was very minor, non-landed aristocracy.  He definitely inflated his Prussian military career, though a lot of his claims and backstory appear to have been created by The Americans in Paris Team before he was sent over to the colonies.  He added to the myth with his entourage and general demeanor.  He was a pretty good bullshit artist it seems.  The interesting part is that by the end of his life, he had more or less lived up to all of his fake and exaggerated backstory, though with an American background.  He reached the rank of Major General, he became friends with the ruler of a country, and he owned vast tracts of land.  I live about 15 minutes from where he's buried and as part of my National Park Service duties, I rotate the operation of his (re)burial site as part of my duties.  The NPS partnered with the State of New York to keep the von Steuben Memorial and the Oriskany Battlefield sites open and staffed in the mid '00's.

[CountDeMoney]

I live about 15 minutes from where he's buried and as part of my National Park Service duties, I rotate the operation of his (re)burial site as part of my duties.

That's, like, double bonus karma points right there.

[11B4V]

Making a fraudulent seal used to obtain a high ranking government position the emblem of the inspector general's office would be funny in its own way, and something I'd expect from a member of Donald Drumpf's team.

I wikied to check, and it looks like von Steuben was legit.  Maybe de Kalb?

Which one was the Kraut that drilled the army at Valley Forge?

That's weird, I thought it was pretty common knowledge that von Steuben wasn't actually an aristocrat. Strange that his wiki page doesn't even mention the idea in passing somewhere.

Nah, AFAIK the "von" was legit--he was a member of the aristocracy, though it was the lower aristocracy.  OTOH, he did apparently rather inflate his service record from the Prussian Army.

De Kalb wasn't born into the aristocracy, but was elevated to the French nobility for distinguished military service.

This.  He was very minor, non-landed aristocracy.  He definitely inflated his Prussian military career, though a lot of his claims and backstory appear to have been created by The Americans in Paris Team before he was sent over to the colonies.  He added to the myth with his entourage and general demeanor.  He was a pretty good bullshit artist it seems.  The interesting part is that by the end of his life, he had more or less lived up to all of his fake and exaggerated backstory, though with an American background.  He reached the rank of Major General, he became friends with the ruler of a country, and he owned vast tracts of land.  I live about 15 minutes from where he's buried and as part of my National Park Service duties, I rotate the operation of his (re)burial site as part of my duties.  The NPS partnered with the State of New York to keep the von Steuben Memorial and the Oriskany Battlefield sites open and staffed in the mid '00's.

IMO irrelevant whether he was a low ranking aristocrat or over inflated himself. He didn't really need to. To colonial hillbillies all he needed was the professionalism of a professional army.

[Sophie Scholl]

Guy's got to be pissed about that memorial.  He requested to be buried in an unmarked grave in his military greatcoat.  Alas, New York wanted to build a road which would have went right over him so they excavated the grave.  During the few days before he was reinterred, someone robbed his corpse of the greatcoat.  Then New York build the Memorial over him.  Whoops.  To hell with your wishes, sir.

[Sophie Scholl]

IMO irrelevant whether he was a low ranking aristocrat or over inflated himself. He didn't really need to. To colonial hillbillies all he needed was the professionalism of a professional army.

Ah, but it was Congress he had to sell himself to.  They were pissed about the massive influx of shitty European officers who came over offering their services for often inflated pricetags.  Especially with how terrible a lot of them were.  Bored or shitty French officers would often leverage their influence at home for commissions.

[11B4V]

Guy's got to be pissed about that memorial.  He requested to be buried in an unmarked grave in his military greatcoat.  Alas, New York wanted to build a road which would have went right over him so they excavated the grave.  During the few days before he was reinterred, someone robbed his corpse of the greatcoat.  Then New York build the Memorial over him.  Whoops.  To hell with your wishes, sir.

Damn

[11B4V]

IMO irrelevant whether he was a low ranking aristocrat or over inflated himself. He didn't really need to. To colonial hillbillies all he needed was the professionalism of a professional army.

Ah, but it was Congress he had to sell himself to.  They were pissed about the massive influx of shitty European officers who came over offering their services for often inflated pricetags.  Especially with how terrible a lot of them were.  Bored or shitty French officers would often leverage their influence at home for commissions.

Nice. 

[MadImmortalMan]

Doesn't "questioning NATO' and "embracing non-interventionism" sound like exactly what Europeans want us to do?

Or is that just the ranting teenagers on EUOT?

[PDH]

Nice. 

Totally gay

[The Brain]

Doesn't "questioning NATO' and "embracing non-interventionism" sound like exactly what Europeans want us to do?

Or is that just the ranting teenagers on EUOT?

Not just the teenagers on EUOT. Before the 2010 general elections the red-green parties that are now in power said that if they won they would demand the US leave all overseas military bases. Yes, those parties are quite retarded. Of course they haven't actually done this since coming to power in 2014, because they are a ship drifting rudderless with no aim or clue.