Egypt's Military Says Toddler's Life Sentence Was Case Of Mistaken Identity

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jimmy olsen

Oh, well that's a mistake anyone could have made.  :rolleyes:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/23/467800713/egypts-military-says-toddlers-life-sentence-was-case-of-mistaken-identity
QuoteEgypt's Military Says Toddler's Life Sentence Was Case Of Mistaken Identity

Updated February 23, 2016·5:42 PM ET

Published February 23, 2016·12:50 PM ET

After sentencing a toddler to life in prison for murder, the Egyptian military now says that was a case of mistaken identity.

Ahmed Mansour Qurany was sentenced Feb. 16 along with 115 other people involved in a murderous rampage in 2014. The incident happened during a period of unrest following the 2013 ouster of Islamist President Mohamed Morsi. The sentence was handed down by a military court — a system widely criticized by rights groups for speedy trials and minimal legal protections.

The boy's father, identified as Mansour Qurany Ahmed, appeared Saturday on the Egyptian talk show Al-Ashara Masa'an, prior to the military's remarks about mistaken identity.

"This father ... is afraid for his son — for this 4-year-old child," said TV host Wael el-Ebrashy said of Ahmed, who had his son sleeping on his lap.

The child stirred at one point during the program, and Ebrashy jokingly remarked, "Hey, you terrorist, did you kill four people?" Young Qurany turned toward his dad and went back to sleep.

The sentence provoked widespread outcry in Egypt. In Egypt, a life sentence is understood as 25 years and mass trials like this one are common.

Egyptian military spokesman Brig. Gen. Mohamed Samir said in a statement that the charges stemmed from a March 2014 demonstration in the city of Fayoum, south of Cairo.

According to Samir, the court papers accuse a group of Morsi's supporters from the Muslim Brotherhood of opening fire on a crowd of civilians, sparking clashes, killing three civilians and wounding a "large number" of police.

He says a 16-year-old student named Ahmed Mansour Qurany Sharara was implicated over the course of investigations and should have been the one sentenced.

"If it is true that it was a mistaken identity, why did they come to arrest the boy? Why haven't security arrested the right defendant then?" Mahmoud Abu Kaf, a lawyer involved in the case, told CNN. "Most cases involving big events are based on investigations and no tangible evidence. We've seen cases where defendants were either deceased years before the incident or in prison when it happened."

A lawyer for the defense team told Human Rights Watch that "police went to the family's home in 2014 to arrest him in connection with a protest." The rights group said in a statement:


"When Mansour's father, Mansour Qurni Ahmed Ali, told them that the person they wanted was his young son, they did not believe him, so he presented his son, along with a birth certificate viewed by Human Rights Watch. The police arrested the father instead and held him for four months."


Human Rights Watch deputy Middle East director Joe Stork said the case "exemplifies the banality of repression in Egypt today."

During his weekend appearance on el-Ebrashy's show, the boy's father pleaded that he is a simple, respectable man. He told el-Ebrashy that he was afraid his son would go to prison. You can see the video here:

"Nobody take my son away from me," he sobbed, clutching his son to his chest.

It was not immediately clear what the boy's status is in the case now.

After Morsi's ouster in 2013, Egyptian authorities launched a massive crackdown on his supporters, killing hundreds and jailing thousands. That crackdown has expanded to include dissenting voices from across the political spectrum. As Human Rights Watch recently put it, Egypt's security forces and judiciary have "invoked national security to muzzle nearly all dissent."
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HisMajestyBOB

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DGuller

Well, you try convicting hundreds of people in a couple of hours, let's see how good you'll be with people's identities.

The Brain

I'll wait for BB's take on this. Seems unlikely to me that the government would be wrong on a matter of gaol.
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Archy

You convict hundreds of people and noone cares, you convict a toddler and there's an uproar, Egyptian kangaroo courts can't catch a break!  :rolleyes:           ;)

Capetan Mihali

In the U.S., Due Process demands that a toddler's identity be ascertained beyond a reasonable doubt before a life sentence is imposed.
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Siege

There are only 3 kinds of muslims.
Terrorists, terrorists in the making, and terrorists factories.


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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Siege on February 28, 2016, 10:19:51 AM
There are only 3 kinds of muslims.
Terrorists, terrorists in the making, and terrorists factories.

So you think the government of Egypt should just arrest everybody then?  :hmm:
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Razgovory

Quote from: Siege on February 28, 2016, 10:19:51 AM
There are only 3 kinds of muslims.
Terrorists, terrorists in the making, and terrorists factories.

Man, no wonder you are war criminal.
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Habbaku

Quote from: Siege on February 28, 2016, 10:19:51 AM
There are only 3 kinds of muslims.
Terrorists, terrorists in the making, and terrorists factories.

Trump for God-Emperor.
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Martinus

I wonder when Egypt will get back to normal enough so I can go and visit the Pyramids.

Razgovory

Quote from: Martinus on February 29, 2016, 03:55:11 AM
I wonder when Egypt will get back to normal enough so I can go and visit the Pyramids.

This is normal.
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Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Capetan Mihali

I'm damn eager to visit Egypt.  If I had the funds and the time, I'd roll the dice and go right now regardless.
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Martinus

I guess it's better to visit a place like this when it's under a dictatorship than a revolution.

Ok putting Cairo down on my list, after Scotland and Languedoc.