Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Syt]

Are white Brits generally asked where they're really from? Like, from Anglia, or Saxony, or maybe Normandie?

[Threviel]

I read somewhere that for an American it's perfectly normal to ask where someone is from and have that person answer Germany or whatever just because their great grandfather came from there. Since most have had their ancestors move into the country in relatively recent times that's just how it is and there's nothing racist about it.

Compared to here in Europe where that question is normally just absurd and if not racist at least rude in a lot of cases. Different perspectives and so on.

[Admiral Yi]

No, Yi. Black people in the UK can come from the UK. THe vast majority of them do. Including this woman who hass a very clear London accent.

So that's what the indictment consists of?  Unpopular use of the word from?

[Sheilbh]

Are white Brits generally asked where they're really from? Like, from Anglia, or Saxony, or maybe Normandie?

Yes and no. Obviously you don't keep asking like this woman did.

But I think as Britain becomes more diverse - including in the white population - and there's more hyphenated identities, I think it does come up a bit. The key is that it should only come up in a way that both people are comfortable with and around interest in someone's background rather than "where are you really from"/"you don't belong" - which can also apply to white British people who are of Polish or Jewish or Spanish heritage, for example, and can feel similarly othered.

Other white is, after all, the largest minority group after Asian British (9%) at around 6% - and being white and British doesn't mean your heritage or what ethnic heritage you'd identify is Anglo-Saxon or Norman (or even Irish, Welsh and Scots). I think part of it will depend on how those communities identify in the future, my guess is that the future is more hyphenated - but I think part of that is just because we speak English, I think we're 10-20 years behind North America but we're following in their wake (especially the US). I think the future here is more plural, overlapping identities and heritages.

[Josquius]

Where did she demonstrate judgemmentalism?

What nationality are you when the lady specifically just said she was British .
Either deaf or saying black people can't be British.

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Who actually thinks this otside of your imagination?

Quitlings.

[Gups]

General rudeness and boorishness would be top of my list but also the insistence that the woman can't be from Britain despite saying that she is because she is black. I'm not really sure why this is difficult to grasp.

TBH, I think the whole thing is overblown and has got too much attention. If someone weer to question me in that way, I'd think they were rude and weird but I wouldn't be personally offended. I'd just try to move on to someone else.

[Gups]

Quitlings.

You said "we" i.e. the population in general as if it were a charateristic of the British.

[Admiral Yi]

What nationality are you when the lady specifically just said she was British .
Either deaf or saying black people can't be British. 

It seems emminently plausible to me that white lady thought she was being misunderstood.

[Admiral Yi]

General rudeness and boorishness would be top of my list but also the insistence that the woman can't be from Britain despite saying that she is because she is black. I'm not really sure why this is difficult to grasp.

TBH, I think the whole thing is overblown and has got too much attention. If someone weer to question me in that way, I'd think they were rude and weird but I wouldn't be personally offended. I'd just try to move on to someone else.

I think it's a lovely case study to talk around. 

The only way to achieve racial harmony is through the creation of consensus.  I think not talking about it does not help it go away.

[celedhring]

There are ways of asking people about their heritage without sounding like a racist - that's something I'm often curious about when meeting people that are obviously not cristianos viejos. That lady didn't pass that bar.

[garbon]

General rudeness and boorishness would be top of my list but also the insistence that the woman can't be from Britain despite saying that she is because she is black. I'm not really sure why this is difficult to grasp.

TBH, I think the whole thing is overblown and has got too much attention. If someone weer to question me in that way, I'd think they were rude and weird but I wouldn't be personally offended. I'd just try to move on to someone else.

She did also begin(?) the interaction by grabbing at her hair.

[Richard Hakluyt]

General rudeness and boorishness would be top of my list but also the insistence that the woman can't be from Britain despite saying that she is because she is black. I'm not really sure why this is difficult to grasp.

TBH, I think the whole thing is overblown and has got too much attention. If someone weer to question me in that way, I'd think they were rude and weird but I wouldn't be personally offended. I'd just try to move on to someone else.

That is the strange thing about the story really, the rudeness. The courtier had one job, to make polite and anodyne conversation with the guests. But she completely failed to do so.

I think she had a senior moment and was back in a 1960 mindset where most black people did indeed come from somewhere. Still doesn't explain the boorishness though 

To be absolutely clear to non-Brits on the board the interrogation was incredibly rude; I think anyone would be stunned to meet with such gross impoliteness at a palace do.

[Sheilbh]

TBH, I think the whole thing is overblown and has got too much attention. If someone weer to question me in that way, I'd think they were rude and weird but I wouldn't be personally offended. I'd just try to move on to someone else.

Yeah. I'm not sure it deserves to be a three day big story.

But agree with cel on it and I just do not understand the repeated aggressive questioning if she didn't want to make an implication/that person feel unwelcome.

There are ways of asking but conversation's two way and if someone doesn't want to answer a question, you move on. It's not Newsnight.

[Josquius]

100% its being over milked. I guess there's not much else going on.
How about that bi-election?
The Tories were aiming to increase their share and get over 20%....and failed.
Chester is one of those prime 'blue wall' seats that have flipped in recent years I believe?- Blair had it but otherwise Toryland back in the depths of history until very recently.

Quitlings.

You said "we" i.e. the population in general as if it were a charateristic of the British.

And you asked for an example of where you see this kind of attitude.
If you incorrectly read that I think every Brit thinks Britain is number one and has zero interest in immigration, then no, I do not think that. What with it being me it should be quite clear.

[garbon]

The media has already reported on the story being inflated bigger than it is.