Hillary vs Bernie

[Admiral Yi]

There's also the fact that she leveraged her position as first lady of Arkansas into a partnership in a locally important law firm.

I'll probably end up voting for her too, but all the parlaying she did of her marriage is the least appealing part of her to me.

[Phillip V]

There's also the fact that she leveraged her position as first lady of Arkansas into a partnership in a locally important law firm.

I'll probably end up voting for her too, but all the parlaying she did of her marriage is the least appealing part of her to me.

H. Clinton was also given a seat on Walmart's Board of Directors for 6 years as First Lady of Arkansas until 1992.  Good deal.

[dps]

There's also the fact that she leveraged her position as first lady of Arkansas into a partnership in a locally important law firm.

I'll probably end up voting for her too, but all the parlaying she did of her marriage is the least appealing part of her to me.

Take that part away, and all you're left with is a money-grubbing shyster.

[Jacob]

I think that's mostly built on the belief that it was a marriage of opportunity for her and she didn't care about Bill's fidelity. Well, the cold part. Evil is automatic for anyone with a (D) attached to their name.

Don't forget the things she said about Bill's accusers.

I don't know what she said about Bill's accusers... what did she say?

[derspiess]

Oh, never mind then.

[Jacob]

There's also the fact that she leveraged her position as first lady of Arkansas into a partnership in a locally important law firm.

This is not intended as a defense of Hillary, but it was my impression that relatives of important politicians in the US tend to sit on boards and do well in various areas of business related to politics. F. ex. I would expect that plenty of Bushes sit on boards and have had opportunities to join companies that benefit from political contacts for example. I guess it's less common for it to be the wife rather than the sons, daughters, and siblings though.

... or is this perception off?

I'll probably end up voting for her too, but all the parlaying she did of her marriage is the least appealing part of her to me.

It'll be interesting to see where it goes... very curious to see what strategy Trump takes after he gets the nomination and to what degree he tacks to the centre (and how does so). I see some of you guys here on languish as a bit of a bellwether of the American political climate - IMO Trump will have to win back voters like you that he's alienated during the primaries to win - so I'll be very interested in following your view and if/ how it evolves during the campaign.

[Jacob]

Oh, never mind then.

That doesn't sound particularly egregious to me

[LaCroix]

There's also the fact that she leveraged her position as first lady of Arkansas into a partnership in a locally important law firm.

I'll probably end up voting for her too, but all the parlaying she did of her marriage is the least appealing part of her to me.

she's a yale law school grad, worked at rose law firm as an associate, and eventually became partner. though, wasn't able to find how long she was associate. also, the firm has 32 attorneys -- it's not very big, and it doesn't seem to be an elite boutique firm, either. this doesn't seem like "leveraged her position as first lady of Arkansas into a partnership." while I'm sure her family's connections helped, what else is a professional woman interested in her own career to do? take a mediocre job and haul ass for a decade out of principle?

[Malthus]

Yeah, it is absolutely par for the course (so to speak) for a law firm to take someone's significant connections into account, because connections are how law firms get clients, and getting clients is how firms make money. Not really remarkable - that's just the way of the world.

[LaCroix]

not to mention hillary's ambitious were absolutely shot down in the early years. yale law grad who ended up at some middling arkansas firm? good god. it's not even the best firm in the state

[The Minsky Moment]

Webster Hubbell was partner at Rose.  So not the highest of bars.  Pretty confident she could have made that on her own had that been her life's amibition

Edit: yeah what LC said.

[Razgovory]

Bill Clinton was elected in 1992.  Impeachment of Bill Clinton was 1998 (note that the impeachment came out of the investigation of Whitewater).  What were they talking about between 1992 and 1998?

Gays in the military, ObamaHillaryCare, Bill's love life(starting with Jennifer Flowers in campaign), OJ, Rodney King, the Chicago Bulls, Boris Yeltsin...

C'mon, now.  Let's not be coy.  Clinton murdering people!  Clinton stealing!  Hillary Clinton is a practicing witch!  Clinton was a drug kingpin!  Clinton secret police!  Clinton plot launch a Marxist coup!  Sending Money to the Contras.

[Razgovory]

I think that's mostly built on the belief that it was a marriage of opportunity for her and she didn't care about Bill's fidelity. Well, the cold part. Evil is automatic for anyone with a (D) attached to their name.

Don't forget the things she said about Bill's accusers.

Yeah, I think she might have mention that the people who said her husband sent black helicopters after there were "crazy".  How hurtful.

[Phillip V]

not to mention hillary's ambitious were absolutely shot down in the early years. yale law grad who ended up at some middling arkansas firm? good god. it's not even the best firm in the state

That was the sacrifice she made to marry Bill Clinton, leave the East Coast, and follow him to Arkansas.  Hillary Rodham would have been quite successful on her own, but not world domination successful.

[Admiral Yi]

This is not intended as a defense of Hillary, but it was my impression that relatives of important politicians in the US tend to sit on boards and do well in various areas of business related to politics. F. ex. I would expect that plenty of Bushes sit on boards and have had opportunities to join companies that benefit from political contacts for example. I guess it's less common for it to be the wife rather than the sons, daughters, and siblings though.

... or is this perception off?

I think this is valid.  Then what?  I don't think anyone is claiming Hillary is the first person in American history to leverage family political connections.