Hillary vs Bernie

[Eddie Teach]

You prefer Trump instead?

No, not that it's at all relevant to the statement I was making.

[Monoriu]

You prefer Trump instead?

No, not that it's at all relevant to the statement I was making.

Realistically, only Trump and Hillary have a chance to become the next president.  Since you don't prefer Hillary, I must ask if you prefer the other one

[Eddie Teach]

Realistically, only Trump and Hillary have a chance to become the next president.  Since you don't prefer Hillary, I must ask if you prefer the other one

That's not what I said. I don't think she's that talented as a politician/beauty pageant contestant/snake oil salesman, but that's not really a bad thing as far as how she would perform in office.

[CountDeMoney]

Quite frankly, after 8 years of overly-idealistic naivete preceded by 8 years of vapidly smirking fratboy towelsnapping, I could use a coolly efficient and cynically realistic professional political operative in the Oval Office not named Dick Cheney for a change.

[Valmy]

Quite frankly, after 8 years of overly-idealistic naivete preceded by 8 years of vapidly smirking fratboy towelsnapping, I could use a coolly efficient and cynically realistic professional political operative in the Oval Office not named Dick Cheney for a change.

Yeah that is my thinking on the matter. Time for a veteran insider to run this ship for a bit.

[Martinus]

I think some of this dislike wouldn't exist if everything stayed the same except she were male

If she were male, no one would have ever heard of her outside of Illinois, 'cause then she wouldn't have been married to Bill, and she(well, he) would be a successful but obscure lawyer in Chicago.

Too true!  The idea that a Chicago lawyer could get elected President of the United States without having been married  to a previous president is obviously absurd!  It has never happpened.

[Norgy]

Quite frankly, after 8 years of overly-idealistic naivete preceded by 8 years of vapidly smirking fratboy towelsnapping, I could use a coolly efficient and cynically realistic professional political operative in the Oval Office not named Dick Cheney for a change.

You have been a Hillary voter for as long as I can remember. I think she'd do a good job.
A divisive character, for sure, but with more clout than Sanders.

I like Sanders' ideas and he's incredibly funny to watch go apeshit about something, but I am not sure he'd be a good president.
That he is in fact still in the race, is incredible if you ask me.

[DGuller]

Quite frankly, after 8 years of overly-idealistic naivete preceded by 8 years of vapidly smirking fratboy towelsnapping, I could use a coolly efficient and cynically realistic professional political operative in the Oval Office not named Dick Cheney for a change.

Never been sold on her "coolly efficiency".  Jusr because you're an SOB doesn't mean you're efficient.

[garbon]

Quite frankly, after 8 years of overly-idealistic naivete preceded by 8 years of vapidly smirking fratboy towelsnapping, I could use a coolly efficient and cynically realistic professional political operative in the Oval Office not named Dick Cheney for a change.

Never been sold on her "coolly efficiency".  Jusr because you're an SOB doesn't mean you're efficient.

Do you mean DOB?

[derspiess]

Or just B.

[Jacob]

Never been sold on her "coolly efficiency".  Jusr because you're an SOB doesn't mean you're efficient.

What are the main things that make you consider her an SOB/DOB/B?

I mean, personally I have the impression that that reputation is primarily the result of a decades long smear campaign by political opponents and media discomfort with powerful women. It's just an impression though, so I'm curious about the specifics that led you to that conclusion.

[derspiess]

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!

[Jacob]

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!

You do try your best

[derspiess]

It's fun to conspire.

[garbon]

Or just B.

Isn't that a positive thing?