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Started by Eddie Teach, January 31, 2016, 05:47:52 AM

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Say you're at the Iowa Democratic caucus- who do you vote for?

Sanders
31 (46.3%)
Clinton
25 (37.3%)
Littlefinger
5 (7.5%)
Sanders, but only to make it easier for GOP to win
2 (3%)
Clinton, but only to make it easier for GOP to win
0 (0%)
Write in for Biden :(
1 (1.5%)
Write in for Trump :wacko:
3 (4.5%)

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alfred russel

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February 16, 2016, 09:58:42 AM Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 12:40:24 PM by alfred russel
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The Minsky Moment

#301
February 16, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 16, 2016, 07:38:29 AM
Personally, while I would kinda like Sanders to win on a human level, from the Polish perspective, Hillary would be a much more preferable choice.

Betcha Bernie has eaten more pierogis.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

crazy canuck

#302
February 16, 2016, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 16, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 16, 2016, 07:38:29 AM
Personally, while I would kinda like Sanders to win on a human level, from the Polish perspective, Hillary would be a much more preferable choice.

Betcha Bernie has eaten more pierogis.

I thought it was a reference to Poles making historically bad choices  :hmm:

Eddie Teach

#303
February 16, 2016, 12:44:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 16, 2016, 12:42:41 PM
I thought it was a reference to Poles making historically bad choices  :hmm:

He's saying Hillary will be tougher on Russia.  :hmm:
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DGuller

#304
February 16, 2016, 12:47:55 PM
He's saying that Bernie is a Jew.

jimmy olsen

#305
February 17, 2016, 01:03:52 AM
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Martinus

#306
February 17, 2016, 01:07:22 AM

garbon

#307
February 17, 2016, 01:07:31 AM
What a funny 'article.'
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

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Martinus

#308
February 17, 2016, 01:10:04 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 17, 2016, 01:03:52 AM
Cool

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-old-video-shows-bernie-sanders-arrest-article-1.2533704?utm_content=buffer75d5e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
QuoteAmazing archival video appears to show the arrest of a young Bernie Sanders as a student activist in Chicago

How do you arrest someone for resisting arrest?  :huh:

Malthus

#309
February 17, 2016, 11:02:44 AM
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DGuller

#311
February 17, 2016, 01:05:10 PM
 :lmfao:

Phillip V

#312
February 18, 2016, 11:36:59 PM
Sanders has closed the gap seriously with Clinton in national polls, leading in one for the first time.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

OttoVonBismarck

#313
February 19, 2016, 01:53:22 PM
Yeah, I still think Clinton wins because there's a positive feedback loop in the media and for voters with success; Bernie might win or tie Nevada, but will still likely lose almost every Super Tuesday state. That will decrease the number of media stories on "is Bernie dethroning Hillary", which should have follow on hits to his support. Like any candidate Bernie has a core of diehards (who are a larger portion of his voters than Hillary's diehards) and then people who are supporting him lightly. Some of those non-diehards will go away after a string of defeats.

But national polls are important, and show a genuine movement. But the demographics of Super Tuesday still hurt him tremendously, and to me if he has any real chance he has to still be polling well nationally after losing 75% of Super Tuesday states.

Mind Obama won South Carolina and all the SEC states, it's not a coincidence he became the nominee--it's hard for any Democrat to get through the primary process with no southern support. Clinton did well in the rust belt and several of the larger states like California and New York, but it wasn't enough to offset Obama's delegate wins in the other states.

Phillip V

#314
February 19, 2016, 03:34:53 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on February 19, 2016, 01:53:22 PM
Yeah, I still think Clinton wins because there's a positive feedback loop in the media and for voters with success; Bernie might win or tie Nevada, but will still likely lose almost every Super Tuesday state. That will decrease the number of media stories on "is Bernie dethroning Hillary", which should have follow on hits to his support. Like any candidate Bernie has a core of diehards (who are a larger portion of his voters than Hillary's diehards) and then people who are supporting him lightly. Some of those non-diehards will go away after a string of defeats.

But national polls are important, and show a genuine movement. But the demographics of Super Tuesday still hurt him tremendously, and to me if he has any real chance he has to still be polling well nationally after losing 75% of Super Tuesday states.

Mind Obama won South Carolina and all the SEC states, it's not a coincidence he became the nominee--it's hard for any Democrat to get through the primary process with no southern support. Clinton did well in the rust belt and several of the larger states like California and New York, but it wasn't enough to offset Obama's delegate wins in the other states.
2008 Dem primary/caucus results map:

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