2 U.S. Navy Boats With 10 American Sailors Captured by Iranian Military

Started by jimmy olsen, January 12, 2016, 11:28:01 PM

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Fuckers!  :mad:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/pentagon-2-u-s-navy-boats-held-iran-military-n495031

QuotePentagon: 2 U.S. Navy Boats With 10 American Sailors Held by Iran Military

by Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube

Iranian military forces seized two U.S. Navy boats Tuesday and are detaining them on Iran's Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf, senior U.S. officials told NBC News.

The 10 American sailors aboard the small riverine vessels were on a training mission around noon ET when one of the boats may have experienced mechanical failure and drifted into Iranian-claimed waters, officials said. Iran's coast guard took them into custody.

The officials said it's unclear whether the sailors — nine men and one woman — had strayed into Iranian territorial waters before they were captured.

American naval ships routinely navigate the waters of the Persian Gulf near Iranian territory. The Gulf has been a flashpoint in the Middle East, and the incident comes on the same day President Barack Obama was set to give his annual State of the Union address.

"At this point, we're still monitoring the situation and it's not entirely clear what happened," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said on MSNBC, adding that Iranian authorities confirmed that the sailors are safe.

Earnest said there remained no exact time frame for when the sailors would be let go, but didn't expect a long delay. Officials told NBC News that the Americans aren't expected to be released until around daybreak Wednesday.

Following reports of the incident, Secretary of State John Kerry spoke with Iranian officials in Tehran by phone, attempting to secure the sailors' release.





One senior official told NBC News the Iranians understand it was a mistake and have agreed to let the Americans go in international waters.

Senior U.S. military commanders had criticized Iran last month for its "highly provocative" actions when it fired unguided rockets near U.S. ships, including the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier.





Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook told The Associated Press that the boats were moving between Kuwait and Bahrain when U.S. officials lost contact with them. Farsi Island sits in the Persian Gulf in between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and is fortified by Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

"We have been in contact with Iran and have received assurances that the crew and the vessels will be returned promptly


," Cook said.

Retired Army Gen. Barry McCaffrey, an NBC News military analyst, said the seizure of American boats is "very bad news" and highlights how the Navy may have failed to have surveillance on its vessels.

"We simply can't allow ground, air or naval units to be seized by a foreign hostile power," McCaffrey said on MSNBC. "I hope they're back real quickly. This is an affront to our military presence in the Gulf and will unsettle our allies in the region."


GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush was among the first to attack Obama for appearing weak in front of Iran, which has been at odds with the U.S. over a delicate nuclear deal that was finally reached last year.

"No more bargaining. Obama's humiliatingly weak Iran policy is exposed again," Bush tweeted.

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Jeb Bush
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If our sailors aren't coming home yet, they need to be now. No more bargaining. Obama's humiliatingly weak Iran policy is exposed again.

8:00 AM - 13 Jan 2016

GOP rival Marco Rubio, during an interview on Fox News, called for Iran to release the sailors "immediately," saying the nation is "testing the boundaries of our resolve."

But Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., said on MSNBC that the pending release of the sailors shows how diplomacy between U.S. and Iranian officials "is working."

"Hopefully this will be resolved, and it won't be an issue that we're talking about in a couple of hours," she said.
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Tonitrus

I'm sure I am just being hysterical, but in these cases (it has happened a few times with Iran over the years), I wonder why the USN sailors don't start shooting up those pesky Iranian pirates that are trying to seize their vessal.  :P

Jaron

It seems your anger is premature, Tim. We don't really know what happened yet.
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Valmy

Sounds like they are going to be let go soon. They probably accidentally drifted into their waters...probably nothing to worry about.
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Jaron

Quote from: Valmy on January 13, 2016, 12:38:22 AM
Sounds like they are going to be let go soon. They probably accidentally drifted into their waters...probably nothing to worry about.

Traitor!
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Jacob

Quote from: lustindarkness on January 13, 2016, 08:03:22 AM
They've been returned.

I assume that Bush will have to put the quick resolution down to Obama's strength, given that he decided that their capture was a result of Obama's weakness?

lustindarkness

Quote from: Jacob on January 13, 2016, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on January 13, 2016, 08:03:22 AM
They've been returned.

I assume that Bush will have to put the quick resolution down to Obama's strength, given that he decided that their capture was a result of Obama's weakness?

Of course not.
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Quote from: Jacob on January 13, 2016, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on January 13, 2016, 08:03:22 AM
They've been returned.

I assume that Bush will have to put the quick resolution down to Obama's strength, given that he decided that their capture was a result of Obama's weakness?

Don't be silly, it's out of respect for Obama's strong Muslim faith.
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 13, 2016, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: Jacob on January 13, 2016, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on January 13, 2016, 08:03:22 AM
They've been returned.

I assume that Bush will have to put the quick resolution down to Obama's strength, given that he decided that their capture was a result of Obama's weakness?

Don't be silly, it's out of respect for Obama's strong Muslim faith.

Plus Iran's desire to remain on good terms with all Kenyans.
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Jaron

They put a head rag on one of our women. The conservative line is if Iranians feared the US, as they should and did during the Reagan days, they'd not have dared to pick up the sailors in the first place.
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Valmy

Quote from: Jaron on January 16, 2016, 03:20:33 PM
They put a head rag on one of our women. The conservative line is if Iranians feared the US, as they should and did during the Reagan days, they'd not have dared to pick up the sailors in the first place.

In the Reagan days he decided he was done messing with the Arabs after they attacked us once :hmm:

Smart man but not really one who left everybody sure any wrong move would get you nuked.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

mongers

Well that was a non-crisis. 

Surely the T-party lot can appreciate that the US would do the same thing if foreign armed forces strayed into American waters/airspace especially if they weren't formal allies.

Given how long the US-Mexican border is, do accidental border 'incursions' happen that often and if so, how does each side deal with the trespassers?
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Tonitrus

Quote from: mongers on January 16, 2016, 05:52:47 PM
Well that was a non-crisis. 

Surely the T-party lot can appreciate that the US would do the same thing if foreign armed forces strayed into American waters/airspace especially if they weren't formal allies.

I doubt we'd be parading them on grainy film to the international media and forcing them to apologize on said video.

We'd treat them with great hospitality and serve them beer and ham sandwiches.