Terrorist insurrection against the US Government? OK as long as you're white

[Eddie Teach]

Someone care to educate me as to who is being terrorized here?

The beavers.

[11B4V]

Someone care to educate me as to who is being terrorized here?

The beavers.

White Devils.

[dps]

I saw this early this morning but had a splitting headache and didn't post it.  God Bless you Seedy.  Despite what Grumbler thinks, Arson is a pretty serious crime.  Five years is pretty typical.  Starting a fire out West where wild fires easily get out of control is would seem to carry a little more weight. So would arson to cover up a crime.

I think that's the real point that's being missed.  If the jury had bought their story as to why they set the fire, they probably would have acquitted.

[grumbler]

I think that's the real point that's being missed.  If the jury had bought their story as to why they set the fire, they probably would have acquitted.

I don't think you can be sentenced to prison time for a crime for which you haven't even been charged.  If they had been convicted of a criminal conspiracy, then 5 years would be more appropriate - but they weren't even charged with that.

I don't think that there was a motive explanation that would have gotten those two off, and I have no doubt that they were guilty of some (fairly petty) arson and should be fined, placed on probation, etc.  My beef is with them going to prison for five years.  That's a horrendously overblown sentence, both from a moral and a financial standpoint;  these guys unnecessarily lose their liberty and the taxpayer gets unnecessarily stuck with a half-million-dollar prison tab so that some congressmen can wave around their tiny penises and claim to be tough-on-crime badasses.

[celedhring]

I don't know. Arson will land you in the can over here too, although not five years (unless there's been danger of personal injury).

[Jaron]

In Europe, you would get 30 days probation and a year of community service at the local mosque.

[The Brain]

Actually Europe is pretty soft on crime.

[Liep]

Actually Europe is pretty soft on crime.

It's because we have so much more crime than the US, our prisons would be overcrowded if we were harsher.

[Josephus]

I want to know more about the beavers

[sbr]

The #YallQaeda hashtag is trending on Twitter

https://twitter.com/hashtag/YallQaeda?src=tren

There is some NSFW stuff there

[Jaron]

LOL I've been reading some right wing blogs on this and some of the hillbillies that post on those think the BLM in these stories is the Black Lives Matter movement. They are complaining about black protesters seizing ranchers land and asking why isn't the government helping them.

[sbr]

#VanillaISIS  and #YeeHawdists are also a thing. 

[Barrister]

I will say that five years in prison for burning 130 acres of grass seems a little much.  There's got to be more to the story than that.

Of course you do, you're a fucking pothead.  But the crime is not burning grass, but arson on federal property.

(snip)

I knew there was more to the story.  Moronic federal prosecutors and legislators.  No surprise there.  There should be a mandatory-minimum 5-year prison sentence for any legislator who votes for a mandatory minimum sentence, and one for every prosecutor who argues that sentencing should be based on some arbitrary minimum, rather than on the facts of the case.

Hey, Fuck You Grumbles.

[Razgovory]

I think that's the real point that's being missed.  If the jury had bought their story as to why they set the fire, they probably would have acquitted.

I don't think you can be sentenced to prison time for a crime for which you haven't even been charged.  If they had been convicted of a criminal conspiracy, then 5 years would be more appropriate - but they weren't even charged with that.

I don't think that there was a motive explanation that would have gotten those two off, and I have no doubt that they were guilty of some (fairly petty) arson and should be fined, placed on probation, etc.  My beef is with them going to prison for five years.  That's a horrendously overblown sentence, both from a moral and a financial standpoint;  these guys unnecessarily lose their liberty and the taxpayer gets unnecessarily stuck with a half-million-dollar prison tab so that some congressmen can wave around their tiny penises and claim to be tough-on-crime badasses.

Sorry, but that dog won't hunt.  During the Ferguson riots some guy got a five year sentence and the fire he started didn't even engulf a building.  Other people put it out.

[alfred russel]

Actually Europe is pretty soft on crime.

Europe is soft in general; it is a major reason for the low birth rate.