300 years ago today: Poltava

[Josquius]

You're hardly in the premier league comparing yourself to America
And taller average != tall.

The Dutch are tall. I really see it with them. Maybe its just Uppsala is where you keep your midgets.

[Alatriste]

Why on Earth is there this image of tall, hot, blondes in Sweden? They're not tall and the majority are brown haired. Average hotness is medium; there's better.

I'd have preferred a stronger Sweden. It would never replace Russia completely thus spreading the balance of power over there and Sweden would be able to modernise far better than Russia did. And of course the baltics would be a much nicer place.

Invading Russia? I give you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih4LxXu78dk&feature=PlayList&p=BAD38D95752B975F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=64

I blame Hitler. Mind you, excepting the hotness part... 

Now, more seriously, I think those stereotypes were nearer to the truth in the past. During the last century all of Europe has become a lot less diverse; you could perhaps say the same of the whole word too...

[Alatriste]

Why on Earth is there this image of tall, hot, blondes in Sweden? They're not tall and the majority are brown haired. Average hotness is medium; there's better.

I'd have preferred a stronger Sweden. It would never replace Russia completely thus spreading the balance of power over there and Sweden would be able to modernise far better than Russia did. And of course the baltics would be a much nicer place.

Invading Russia? I give you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih4LxXu78dk&feature=PlayList&p=BAD38D95752B975F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=64

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

Avg male height SWE 181.5cm

Avg male height US 176.3 cm

We are on average taller by a fair margin though if you remove teh untermenschen from the US stats the margin closes, and I bet that the hispanics also drag down the "whites".

It seems the only race of note that are taller than the Swedes are the Dutch. Those fuckers are freakishly tall.

It appears victory goes to "Dinaric Alps" however, whoever the fuck those guys are.

Now the Swedes are a race?

By the way, from the page you linked:

Avg male height Spain: 178 cm

But really, you should be deeply ashamed to post only the higher of two values for Sweden, and the lowest of two for the US (the other two would say 177.9 cm for Sweden, 177.6 cm for the US... )

Actually the truth would be according to that Wiki page

Avg male height US (20-29 years) 179.6 cm
Avg male height Sweden (20-29) 181.5 cm

Oh, and regarding 'untermenschen' (lovely term, by the way... brings a lot of good memories to your mind, doesn't it?)

Avg male height Black Americans (20–39 years) 178 cm [mind you, 20-39 against 20-29 for Swedes and White Americans]

[Eddie Teach]

Blacks are shorter on average than whites? 

I guess my perception is skewed from having played too much pickup basketball. 

[Neil]

I found the Finnish women to be generally better looking than the Swedish ones.  There were also a number of attractive Estonian women, although many tended to waifishness, which isn't really my thing.

[Solmyr]

I'm glad that you are not a retard.

Russia doesn't have to fall, Peter has to fall. If Peter's regime was essentially the same as Russia itself then taking Moscow probably wouldn't have sufficed. My impression is that it was not and that taking Moscow could have forced Peter to peace or from the throne. Nothing about this was certain, marching on Moscow was a gamble. My impression is that it was not an unreasonable one. And as far as I'm aware it was the only positive measure by which Charles could force peace on Peter.

Perhaps. However, Peter's regime would only likely fall if Peter himself were eliminated in some way, by that point Moscow was not a major factor and it wouldn't be again until the Soviet era. As I said, taking St. Petersburg might have been a better idea, since that city was far more symbolic to Peter's regime than Moscow.

[Josquius]

Blacks are shorter on average than whites? 

I guess my perception is skewed from having played too much pickup basketball. 

I'd think the extra 10 years that going up to 39 instead of 29 would alter the results somehow; given that people are known to be 'getting taller' it could well explain a cm or two of error.

[grumbler]

Swedes killing Russians who are killing Swedes.

How cool is THAT! 

[Alatriste]

I'm glad that you are not a retard.

Russia doesn't have to fall, Peter has to fall. If Peter's regime was essentially the same as Russia itself then taking Moscow probably wouldn't have sufficed. My impression is that it was not and that taking Moscow could have forced Peter to peace or from the throne. Nothing about this was certain, marching on Moscow was a gamble. My impression is that it was not an unreasonable one. And as far as I'm aware it was the only positive measure by which Charles could force peace on Peter.

Perhaps. However, Peter's regime would only likely fall if Peter himself were eliminated in some way, by that point Moscow was not a major factor and it wouldn't be again until the Soviet era. As I said, taking St. Petersburg might have been a better idea, since that city was far more symbolic to Peter's regime than Moscow.

In all fairness, the Russian throne was a dangerous place to sit... at least for men.

Regarding a march on Saint Petersburg, Chalres XII would have had a huge advantage over Napoleon in this field, a powerful fleet in the Baltic. On the other hand, Moscow hadn't Saint Petersburg fortifications; besieging a modern fortress in the swampy Baltic terrain against Russian superiority in numbers would have been quite risky too.

[Slargos]

Oh, and regarding 'untermenschen' (lovely term, by the way... brings a lot of good memories to your mind, doesn't it?)

So I managed to hastily overlook that there were two rows for Sweden in my zeal to make a frivolous point? I am shocked! 

[Jaron]

Is anyone really surprised someone from Spain celebrates the birth of pussy pacifist Sweden?

[Alatriste]

Oh, and regarding 'untermenschen' (lovely term, by the way... brings a lot of good memories to your mind, doesn't it?)

So I managed to hastily overlook that there were two rows for Sweden in my zeal to make a frivolous point? I am shocked! 

Two for Sweden and four-five for the US... and somehow your old eyes failed you and you ended up

a) selecting the highest one for Sweden
b) selecting the lowest one for the US
c) Leaving it clear that you believe non whites must be lower (in height, amongst other things)
d) Speak about the Swedish race
e) But somehow Dutch are "freakishly" tall. Because it's only natural for Swedes to be tall, but... Dutch? Now, that's freakish.

Oh, and regarding beauty I will take Slavs any day. Go Czech and Russians pornstars!

[Slargos]

Oh, and regarding 'untermenschen' (lovely term, by the way... brings a lot of good memories to your mind, doesn't it?)

So I managed to hastily overlook that there were two rows for Sweden in my zeal to make a frivolous point? I am shocked! 

Two for Sweden and four-five for the US... and somehow your old eyes failed you and you ended up

a) selecting the highest one for Sweden
b) selecting the lowest one for the US
c) Leaving it clear that you believe non whites must be lower (in height, amongst other things)
d) Speak about the Swedish race
e) But somehow Dutch are "freakishly" tall. Because it's only natural for Swedes to be tall, but... Dutch? Now, that's freakish.

Oh, and regarding beauty I will take Slavs any day. Go Czech and Russians pornstars!

Next time I'm going to add a bunch of  so you may properly gauge the tone of my post. 

[Slargos]

Perhaps I could do something like this at the end of posts where I am joking:


[Alatriste] [/Alatriste]

It could be our little "thing". 

[KRonn]

Happy Poltava Day!