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Started by mongers, December 20, 2015, 09:19:46 AM

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Liep

I instead gave my money to your country. 1 online store had it in stock, luckily they also had a sale so I got some panniers for free with the purchase. All in all I saved about £150 but I would've rather given that to be able to pick it up in a shop.
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mongers

Quote from: Liep on January 28, 2016, 07:10:39 AM
I instead gave my money to your country. 1 online store had it in stock, luckily they also had a sale so I got some panniers for free with the purchase. All in all I saved about £150 but I would've rather given that to be able to pick it up in a shop.

Yeah that's a pity, but needs must and it sounded like it could be weeks before they got the problem sorted. 

Enjoy your new bike when it arrives.  :cool:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

crazy canuck

Quote from: Brazen on January 27, 2016, 10:00:37 AM
Official diagnosis of aggravated plantar fasciitis and Achilles tendinopathy. I have to stop running and keep off my feet as much as possible for at least three months, possibly six. I've got some stretches and exercises to do and I'm off to the gym tonight to get a non-impact programme.

Absolutely nothing I would willingly do can match running for energy expenditure and duration. I've done yoga, swimming and watching my waistline expand so far. I can't even do my 30 minute lunchtime power walk because every step hurts so damn much.

Two suggestions.  First, use a rowing machine at the gym - and get someone to show you how to use it.  Not just technique but also how to read the settings to make sure you are expending the proper amount of effort (it is too easy to over exert on that one).  It is a much better overall exercise than running.  Second, if you are able - or when you are able - try something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCSdKLR0gmA it will do wonders for your feet and help you back to running.


mongers

Good advice.

Though sadly I think there comes an age when it's wisest to give up on running/jogging.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

alfred russel

Quote from: mongers on January 28, 2016, 05:43:07 PM

Though sadly I think there comes an age when it's wisest to give up on running/jogging.

And that is the age of death?

Brazen, good luck. Injuries suck.
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Josquius

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Again I'm considering to look into getting a decent bike. Not much fun cycling around these parts but could be nice anyway. I've got the crazy idea that if only I could find a bike in Dubrovnik or there abouts then I can have a cool holiday riding down the Montenegrin coast on it and only pay to post it once. Plus it should be cheaper in the first place. :hmm:

Quote from: mongers on January 28, 2016, 05:43:07 PM
Good advice.

Though sadly I think there comes an age when it's wisest to give up on running/jogging.
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Brazen

Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2016, 05:11:35 PM

Two suggestions.  First, use a rowing machine at the gym - and get someone to show you how to use it.  Not just technique but also how to read the settings to make sure you are expending the proper amount of effort (it is too easy to over exert on that one).  It is a much better overall exercise than running.  Second, if you are able - or when you are able - try something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCSdKLR0gmA it will do wonders for your feet and help you back to running.

I asked one of the trainers at the gym for a non-impact routine. He gave me a split routine consisting of HIIT on the rower, kettlebell goblet squats and bench split squats, barbell deadlifts (heavier than I'd have gone myself!), leg raises, flutter kicks, Russian twists, twisting sit-ups, mixed shoulder routine, and cable lats, biceps and triceps.

Foot exercises look good, thanks. I am swimming too, the gym pool is sadly underused and sometimes I get it all to myself!

Brazen

Quote from: mongers on January 28, 2016, 05:43:07 PM
Good advice.

Though sadly I think there comes an age when it's wisest to give up on running/jogging.
Tell that to Faujah Singh.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Brazen on January 29, 2016, 04:37:05 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 28, 2016, 05:11:35 PM

Two suggestions.  First, use a rowing machine at the gym - and get someone to show you how to use it.  Not just technique but also how to read the settings to make sure you are expending the proper amount of effort (it is too easy to over exert on that one).  It is a much better overall exercise than running.  Second, if you are able - or when you are able - try something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCSdKLR0gmA it will do wonders for your feet and help you back to running.

I asked one of the trainers at the gym for a non-impact routine. He gave me a split routine consisting of HIIT on the rower, kettlebell goblet squats and bench split squats, barbell deadlifts (heavier than I'd have gone myself!), leg raises, flutter kicks, Russian twists, twisting sit-ups, mixed shoulder routine, and cable lats, biceps and triceps.

Foot exercises look good, thanks. I am swimming too, the gym pool is sadly underused and sometimes I get it all to myself!

Excellent

Josquius

I've had troubles with my right knee for several years now.
3 years ago or so I went to a doctor about it and they referred me to a physio who said something about it being due to one ligament being too strong and one it works with being too weak so there's a disconnect between them.
This sounded odd but she was the pro....
I become incteasingly convinced that was utter bollocks. The pain is right in my knee.
Running isn't really possible for me and I'm restricted to very low weights and a lot of pain with leg exercises that involve pushing up (pushing out on the other hand is fine).
When I move back to the uk I really ought to see another doctor about this. Not going to lie and say I'd be super in shape without the knee trouble but dammit, when it crops up (often randomly) it hurts like hell.

Oh. And err....I'm trying to go to the gym at least twice on the weekend and twice during the week now. So far so good. Concentrating on rowing machines and then arm/core machines. Might as well try and see if I can get muscle since its the current fashion.
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mongers

Managed to get out this afternoon after the rain, did a quick 25 miles, first time I've had an elevated heart rate and breathed hard on a bike in ... about 3 months. :blush:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

alfred russel

Quote from: Tyr on January 30, 2016, 09:24:08 AM
I've had troubles with my right knee for several years now.
3 years ago or so I went to a doctor about it and they referred me to a physio who said something about it being due to one ligament being too strong and one it works with being too weak so there's a disconnect between them.
This sounded odd but she was the pro....
I become incteasingly convinced that was utter bollocks. The pain is right in my knee.
Running isn't really possible for me and I'm restricted to very low weights and a lot of pain with leg exercises that involve pushing up (pushing out on the other hand is fine).
When I move back to the uk I really ought to see another doctor about this. Not going to lie and say I'd be super in shape without the knee trouble but dammit, when it crops up (often randomly) it hurts like hell.

Oh. And err....I'm trying to go to the gym at least twice on the weekend and twice during the week now. So far so good. Concentrating on rowing machines and then arm/core machines. Might as well try and see if I can get muscle since its the current fashion.

When I was a kid/teenager, I had a some knee problems. When I first started running seriously as an adult, they came back in a big way. My doctor recommended I only run on a rubberized track to reduce pressure on my knees, but even then, I remember the first time I did a five mile run on a rubberized track--my knees hurt so bad I could barely go up a flight of stairs.

Many years later--my standard run is 6 miles, I usually do it on a road / sidewalk, and my knees never hurt anymore. Not going to play  doctor and say I know what is wrong, but I think sometimes your body just needs time to adjust to new activity, and that time may be in terms of months or even years. Of course new activities are also when lots of injuries occur.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

mongers

Quote from: alfred russel on January 31, 2016, 03:23:59 PM
Quote from: Tyr on January 30, 2016, 09:24:08 AM
I've had troubles with my right knee for several years now.
3 years ago or so I went to a doctor about it and they referred me to a physio who said something about it being due to one ligament being too strong and one it works with being too weak so there's a disconnect between them.
This sounded odd but she was the pro....
I become incteasingly convinced that was utter bollocks. The pain is right in my knee.
Running isn't really possible for me and I'm restricted to very low weights and a lot of pain with leg exercises that involve pushing up (pushing out on the other hand is fine).
When I move back to the uk I really ought to see another doctor about this. Not going to lie and say I'd be super in shape without the knee trouble but dammit, when it crops up (often randomly) it hurts like hell.

Oh. And err....I'm trying to go to the gym at least twice on the weekend and twice during the week now. So far so good. Concentrating on rowing machines and then arm/core machines. Might as well try and see if I can get muscle since its the current fashion.

When I was a kid/teenager, I had a some knee problems. When I first started running seriously as an adult, they came back in a big way. My doctor recommended I only run on a rubberized track to reduce pressure on my knees, but even then, I remember the first time I did a five mile run on a rubberized track--my knees hurt so bad I could barely go up a flight of stairs.

Many years later--my standard run is 6 miles, I usually do it on a road / sidewalk, and my knees never hurt anymore. Not going to play  doctor and say I know what is wrong, but I think sometimes your body just needs time to adjust to new activity, and that time may be in terms of months or even years. Of course new activities are also when lots of injuries occur.

Oh I don't doubt there's something in that and Tyr is a rather tall lad, so maybe I'll take time for the whole knee to firm up and get used to the forces involved?? 



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Quote from: mongers on January 31, 2016, 03:35:33 PM


Oh I don't doubt there's something in that and Tyr is a rather tall lad, so maybe I'll take time for the whole knee to firm up and get used to the forces involved?? 



Seems likely--aside from talking to a doctor or trainer--it is probably prudent to start out slowly on flat surfaces, ideally grass, but a rubberized track being second best, followed by a paved surface. Treadmills tend cushioned but have downsides (they are boring, and the repetitiveness of the movements can also result in injuries--but it is probably easier on your knees than hilly roads if those are your only alternatives). Make sure you have good shoes--I go to a specialized running store and get shoes fitted to my gait, they will watch you run and help match you up, and also get cushioned inserts to relieve some pressure. Above all, listen to your body. If you knees hurt from a run the day before, don't go running today.

I'd also suggest setting time and distance goals, rather than calorie or time goals. Working toward a 10k in less than an hour (or 70 minutes if that seems to challenging) is better motivation than just hoping the time goes by quickly while exercising.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Josquius

Nah. It's not new activity that is the issue.  It has been on and off for years no matter how much or little exercise I do.
And yes. Stairs are a pita. Though I can walk all day usually with little trouble.
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