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[HVC]

Thanks grumbler

[HVC]

It's a bright spot.

Next time it's the mid terms. I guess the question then will be twofold:

• Will the anti-Trump voters show up? (I expect yes)
• How much will the Trump administration put their thumb on the scale and subvert democracy (more of an open question as far as I'm concerned).

For number 2 I had read that a lot of the gerrymandering was to better utilize the Hispanic vote. If, like grumblers article says, hispanics are abandoning ship then that's bad for the GOP... which is good for the world in general.

[Jacob]

Gerrymandering is one thing - it's kind of how the US has been rolling for a while I think. Unless the current attempts are of a new magnitude?

The thing I'm concerned about is systematic voter disenfranchisement, messing with voting machines, and brazen fraud. Will the Trumpists attempt something obvious? Will the US stand for it?

[Sophie Scholl]

While I hope it doesn't come to it, I also hope if they try any vote rigging, they are as blatant and hamfisted with it as they are with most things. Like... doing an old school Soviet 99% returns for Trump or some such shenanigans. Make it so obvious that everyone remotely sane will have to agree that they cheated.

[viper37]

Gerrymandering is one thing - it's kind of how the US has been rolling for a while I think. Unless the current attempts are of a new magnitude?

The thing I'm concerned about is systematic voter disenfranchisement, messing with voting machines, and brazen fraud. Will the Trumpists attempt something obvious? Will the US stand for it?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/bannon-tells-gop-seize-the-institutions-of-government-now-or-we-re-going-to-prison-after-2028

[Syt]

[Tonitrus]

Gerrymandering is one thing - it's kind of how the US has been rolling for a while I think. Unless the current attempts are of a new magnitude?

The thing I'm concerned about is systematic voter disenfranchisement, messing with voting machines, and brazen fraud. Will the Trumpists attempt something obvious? Will the US stand for it?

It's a new magnitude in that there had been a (very) slow roll in many states towards having independent commissions draw congressional districts.  So not so good setbacks there.

Honestly, I wonder if a pro-move the Dems could make (if they managed government control again)...would be to overturn Apportionment Act of 1911's 435-member limit on representatives...go crazy and make it 800-something.    It might make gerrymandering large, low-population rural districts that much harder.

[Josquius]

How many seats are there physically in the room?
But could be a good round about way since just managing a neutral body would be against states rights and all that.

Or I wonder if there's some sort of halfway dabble could be done... Like mandating something to control insane seat shapes. One direction can't be more than three times the size of the other or so.

It's quite sad to see that the dem held states are having to do stupid gerrymandering themselves just to counter the republican states.