Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Admiral Yi]

Sure it does, or people wouldn't talk about the right to affordable health care, the right to affordable housing, etc.

[Valmy]

Sure it does, or people wouldn't talk about the right to affordable health care, the right to affordable housing, etc.

I can claim a right to anything I like, but if we do something it is because there is a social benefit to doing it. Why did we decide freedom of religion was a right? Because we had just spent centuries murdering each other and decided things worked better when it was a right.

Same with things like public education. We do it because society works shittier without it not because every person deserves it somehow.

[Admiral Yi]

I can claim a right to anything I like, but if we do something it is because there is a social benefit to doing it. Why did we decide freedom of religion was a right? Because we had just spent centuries murdering each other and decided things worked better when it was a right.

Same with things like public education. We do it because society works shittier without it not because every person deserves it somehow.

We do everything we do because there are enough votes to do it.  Each person has their own reasons for why they support it or don't.

[Josquius]

Not on FB, but rather, on Twitter, about Facebook, from @Laura Edelson:

This evening, Facebook suspended my Facebook account and the accounts of several people associated with Cybersecurity for Democracy, our team at NYU. This has the effect of cutting off our access to Facebook's Ad Library data, as well as Crowdtangle.

Over the last several years, we've used this access to uncover systemic flaws in the Facebook Ad Library, identify misinformation in political ads including many sowing distrust in our election system, and to study Facebook's apparent amplification of partisan misinformation.

By suspending our accounts, Facebook has effectively ended all this work. Facebook has also effectively cut off access to more than two dozen other researchers and journalists who get access to Facebook data through our project, 3/4

including our work measuring vaccine misinformation with the Virality Project and many other partners who rely on our data.

The work our team does to make data about disinformation on Facebook transparent is vital to a healthy internet and a healthy democracy. 4/4

This is NYU's Cybersecurity for Democracy project: https://cybersecurityfordemocracy.org/

On the surface this sounds fine and worth being concerned about.
But I know nothing of this woman or the project.
It's one of those "the truth is fake news when it's anti Conservative" projects?

[grumbler]

On the surface this sounds fine and worth being concerned about.
But I know nothing of this woman or the project.
It's one of those "the truth is fake news when it's anti Conservative" projects?

If you clicked on Oex's link, you would see that the project is the opposite of the one you suppose it is.

Social media platforms are vulnerable to social trust attacks that undermine democracy. Before the 2020 U.S. elections, for example, Facebook was flooded with paid ads that spread emotional and false messages about the safety of voting systems. After the election, polling data showed that millions of Americans believed that election fraud had occurred on a massive scale and resulted in the theft of the election. This is just one example of how inaccurate information can be weaponized online and is threatening democracies globally.

[Josquius]

My assumption was it was legit.
I was wondering why it's posted in here though. If it was something dodgy it'd be a folly.

[crazy canuck]

I can claim a right to anything I like, but if we do something it is because there is a social benefit to doing it. Why did we decide freedom of religion was a right? Because we had just spent centuries murdering each other and decided things worked better when it was a right.

Same with things like public education. We do it because society works shittier without it not because every person deserves it somehow.

We do everything we do because there are enough votes to do it.  Each person has their own reasons for why they support it or don't.

Ok Timmay

[Valmy]

I can claim a right to anything I like, but if we do something it is because there is a social benefit to doing it. Why did we decide freedom of religion was a right? Because we had just spent centuries murdering each other and decided things worked better when it was a right.

Same with things like public education. We do it because society works shittier without it not because every person deserves it somehow.

We do everything we do because there are enough votes to do it.  Each person has their own reasons for why they support it or don't.

Well of course. But getting everybody what they deserve rarely factors into it, especially as these kinds of universal programs go to everybody: both the sinners and the saints.

[Admiral Yi]

Well of course. But getting everybody what they deserve rarely factors into it, especially as these kinds of universal programs go to everybody: both the sinners and the saints.

You and I are parsing "deserve" somewhat differently.

You're using it in the sense of if you are a good boy or girl then you deserve a present from Santa.

I'm using it in the sense of a basic human right, or a God given right.  Like I said before with a right to health care.  That has nothing to do with whether you've been naughty or nice.

[Syt]

[Josquius]

So police never ask for ID there?

[Razgovory]

Is that the US?

[Syt]

So police never ask for ID there?

I've seen plenty TV and movie cops ask for "license and registration" on traffic stops, so ...

[The Minsky Moment]

Glad your sisters came around and now oppose voter ID laws.

[Valmy]

Glad your sisters came around and now oppose voter ID laws.

I am frankly surprised they are so in favor of immigration and want open borders.