Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Razgovory]

In a way, 9-11 might never have happened had Trump been president then.  Ben Laden would have realized the US was already on a path to self destruction and find worthier targets then.

In a sense Trump's presidency is a consequence of the 9-11 attack. It certainly altered the trajectory of the GOP and the US as a whole.

I disagree.  In fact, 9/11 may have delayed this.  We've been moving towards this since the Berlin wall fell*.  After 9/11 there was quite a bit more bipartisanship.  Most of the Right-wing militias were effectively dead when it happened and they didn't really grow much during the Bush years.  When Obama got elected the militias began to reform.  I would have thought that the Militas would decline during another Republican Presidency, but instead more and more people were radicalized.

*possibly longer.  I was a kid in the 1980's so I don't know much about the political climate then.  You did get the rise of the Posse Comitatus.

[crazy canuck]

I don't know about that Raz.  Bush had the kindler gentler conservative agenda.  Then 9/11 changed all of that.

[DGuller]

I'm starting to wonder whether the 20th century ideas of free speech are just not compatible with the 21st century brainwashing technology.  The 20th century ideas of what is public information and what is private information is not compatible with 21st century surveillance state technology, it may well be that the idea that false information will lose out in a marketplace of ideas is a dangerously naïve article of faith in the age of microtargeted propaganda.

[The Minsky Moment]

It's a reference to a story from the Bible.  After God sent the Democrats to destroy mankind, He relented and told Noah to a build Gun Safe, of many cubits, and take in two of every caliber and every make and model.

[The Brain]

I'm starting to wonder whether the 20th century ideas of free speech are just not compatible with the 21st century brainwashing technology.  The 20th century ideas of what is public information and what is private information is not compatible with 21st century surveillance state technology, it may well be that the idea that false information will lose out in a marketplace of ideas is a dangerously naïve article of faith in the age of microtargeted propaganda.

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[DGuller]

I'm starting to wonder whether the 20th century ideas of free speech are just not compatible with the 21st century brainwashing technology.  The 20th century ideas of what is public information and what is private information is not compatible with 21st century surveillance state technology, it may well be that the idea that false information will lose out in a marketplace of ideas is a dangerously naïve article of faith in the age of microtargeted propaganda.

Brought to you by FSB gang.

You have to admit, they're pretty good at it, aren't they? 

[Syt]

[Valmy]

I would rather keep the President's family as far away from government as possible after all the nepotism of the last administration.

[Razgovory]

The whole Hunter Biden thing is weird.  Trump's daughter received half a billion dollars in patents from the Chinese.  Not to mention Donald's profits when dealing with China.

[Josquius]

It's a common thing with the far right. They don't get that "the other side" (there is only one) fundamentally see and do things differently to them.
They behave in exactly the same way, they're just less good at it and yet at the same time better at hiding it.

[grumbler]

Having to testify is one of the downsides of accepting nepotistic high-level appointments to the election campaign.  I do remember that his lawyer, defending against the bipartisan criminal referral for perjury filed by the Senate Intelligence Committee, claimed that Junior was too stupid to have a criminal mind.

[The Minsky Moment]

Having to testify is one of the downsides of accepting nepotistic high-level appointments to the election campaign.  I do remember that his lawyer, defending against the bipartisan criminal referral for perjury filed by the Senate Intelligence Committee, claimed that Junior was too stupid to have a criminal mind.

That was also a finding of the Mueller Report.

[grumbler]

Having to testify is one of the downsides of accepting nepotistic high-level appointments to the election campaign.  I do remember that his lawyer, defending against the bipartisan criminal referral for perjury filed by the Senate Intelligence Committee, claimed that Junior was too stupid to have a criminal mind.

That was also a finding of the Mueller Report.

I misremembered it, then.  Whoever said it, they were right.  Junior is a moron, even compared to his dad.

[Syt]

[Valmy]

I mean the equivalent would be if Paul Revere used the colonial postal service instead of spreading it word of mouth. Probably would have been censored a bit harder in 1775.

Edit: Though why was Paul Revere riding around in 1776? Everybody knew the British were coming by that point.