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Started by Syt, December 06, 2015, 01:55:02 PM

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grumbler

That's a time-worn lie.  Reagan used it in the 1960s, and Snopes has it appearing in a Muncie, Indiana newspaper ad in 1960.  The head of the LDS, former Agriculture Secretary Ezra Taft Benson claimed in 1966 that Khrushchev had said that to him privately.  Benson can't explain why he told different versions of his conversation with Khrushchev prior to 1966, nor how a Muncie, Indiana paper knew about this private conversation.   There's no public record of Khrushchev saying this, and only Benson has attributed the report to Benson.
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DGuller

Khrushchev's recklessness is on full display here again.  Why in the world would you reveal your game plan to your opponent?

Tonitrus

I like how healthcare is the first stage towards communism.  :P

grumbler

And I like how he addressed the UN (and banged his shoe) two days after he left the US for the last time.

Nothing supports made-up stories like made-up specific details.  Nothing undermines them like that, either.
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Razgovory

I don't think Kruschev could even outline an eight point plan like that.  He didn't have the most robust intellect.  Also, the shoe thing didn't happen in 1959.
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Barrister

Quote from: Razgovory on April 06, 2021, 02:21:07 PM
I don't think Kruschev could even outline an eight point plan like that.  He didn't have the most robust intellect.  Also, the shoe thing didn't happen in 1959.

I was today days old when I learned that Kruschev banging his shoe on the table is actually a matter of some historical debate (even through Kruschev himself included it in his memoirs).

That he had his shoe out is
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Quote from: Barrister on April 06, 2021, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 06, 2021, 02:21:07 PM
I don't think Kruschev could even outline an eight point plan like that.  He didn't have the most robust intellect.  Also, the shoe thing didn't happen in 1959.

I was today days old when I learned that Kruschev banging his shoe on the table is actually a matter of some historical debate (even through Kruschev himself included it in his memoirs).

That he had his shoe out is

beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct? strangely erotic? cringe?
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DGuller

Khrushchev's memoirs are (sometimes) interesting to read, but I don't think they're very reliable for a couple of reasons:

1)  Some suspect that parts of it were edited by KGB or others, to at least somewhat align them with the party agenda of the time.
2)  Khrushchev was very self-serving in his descriptions of everyone and everything.
3)  Khrushchev is one of those people whose memory is just supremely unreliable, and he may have genuinely remembered things in a very different way from how they happened.

HVC

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Syt

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They're scoring so many own goals lately :lol:
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