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Started by Syt, December 06, 2015, 01:55:02 PM

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Eddie Teach

Concern for the homeless and mentally ill is merely a talking point to people who say things like that.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Tonitrus

It's similar to the cognitive dissonance on abortion.  Immense concern for life while in the womb...life once out of the womb?  Babies better pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Syt

Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 27, 2020, 02:50:45 AM
Concern for the homeless and mentally ill is merely a talking point to people who say things like that.

Exactly. After all, there should be no government handouts, lazy bums should earn their keep, if you're poor it's your own fault etc. etc.
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

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Josquius

So...pressing 1 to speak English is bad? They'd rather it be listed after the deaf option?

QuoteConcern for the homeless and mentally ill is merely a talking point to people who say things like that.


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Valmy

Quote from: Tyr on December 27, 2020, 03:12:42 AM
So...pressing 1 to speak English is bad? They'd rather it be listed after the deaf option?

The bad part is that immediately following that message is "para español, marque dos"

IT SHOULD JUST DEFAULT TO ENGLISH, WE HAVE LOST OUR COUNTRY!!!1111
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

Jeff Durham has filled me with the COURAGE to say we should stop giving Israel 3 billion a year.

The Brain

Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 27, 2020, 04:31:22 AM
Jeff Durham has filled me with the COURAGE to say we should stop giving Israel 3 billion a year.

How much do you want to give them? 30 billion?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Brain on December 27, 2020, 04:52:24 AM
How much do you want to give them? 30 billion?

I'm debating between jack and shit.

DGuller

Quote from: Tonitrus on December 27, 2020, 02:57:36 AM
It's similar to the cognitive dissonance on abortion.  Immense concern for life while in the womb...life once out of the womb?  Babies better pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
That's a really bad argument.  If you oppose abortion because you think it's murder, then it's okay to oppose murder without taking on a financial responsibility for the future murder victims.

Darth Wagtaros

"We have homelessness!"
"They are lazy, no socialism!"

Endless repeat.
PDH!

Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/rubio-is-right-fauci-has-repeatedly-lied-because-he-thinks-youre-stupid?fbclid=IwAR1oaF7biyDcVLqBc6SncS5Q87n-IiYMcrph7U6nhgIt3JGhcW4NhhzH808

QuoteRubio is right: Fauci has repeatedly lied because he thinks you're stupid

Nearly a year into our 15 days to slow the spread, our political class still refuses to call out our supposed medical experts for repeatedly discrediting themselves with noble lie after noble lie. Finally, Sen. Marco Rubio has rightly called out Anthony Fauci for lying to the public because our ruling class believes us plebians to be too stupid to understand the actual science about the coronavirus.

QuoteMarco Rubio
@marcorubio
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Dec 27
Dr. Fauci lied about masks in March

Dr. Fauci has been distorting the level of vaccination needed for herd immunity

It isn't just him

Many in elite bubbles believe the American public doesn't know "what's good for them" so they need to be tricked into "doing the right thing"

In the year since the Chinese Communist Party unleashed the novel coronavirus across the globe, we've learned an abundance about the virus that could have informed far less onerous mitigation measures. If we had known as we do now that young children are not significant vectors spreading the virus, we would have never shut down the kindergartens and elementary schools. If we had known that the outdoors, especially in direct sunlight, are orders of magnitude safer than indoors, we would have never closed off beaches and hiking trails, and city centers would have almost certainly closed off streets to allow restaurants greater capacity for outdoor dining.

The one thing we did know was likely, if not absolutely, true about was that masks could reduce the transmission of the novel coronavirus, just as they did for other serious coronaviruses such as the SARS and MERS viruses.

Even before we shut a single business, as news of the CCP welding doors in Wuhan shut and mass deaths overriding hospitals in Hubei trickled across the Pacific, public health officials could have encouraged people to wear simple cloth masks when going into crowded areas. After all, not only did we know that as with nearly all airborne respiratory diseases, masks have been effective at preventing other types of coronavirus transmission, but also that studies of much smaller microorganisms than the novel coronavirus clearly demonstrated homemade masks efficacy against transmission.

And yet, the medical expert establishment knowingly decided to lie to the public about our cheapest and easiest tool to slow coronavirus transmission. As late as March, Fauci was telling the public that they had "no reason" to wear a mask, only admitting that this was a willful and deliberate lie many months later.

"[W]e were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply," Fauci said in a June interview. "And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely, the healthcare workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who you know were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected."

Now the nation's leading epidemiology expert has confessed that he knowingly lied about the percentage of the public with coronavirus resistance required to achieve herd immunity.

"Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts," the New York Times reported on Christmas Eve. "He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks."

Although Fauci once said he believed herd immunity required around three-quarters of the public to have resistance to the coronavirus, he admitted to the New York Times that he's believed the figure to be up to 90%.

Fauci may believe that this is the only way to get the public to go along with the science, but in truth, it's why the backlash to "expert" advice has been so strong.

Almost a year into 15 days to slow the spread, and even the most benevolent of us are fed up with being lied to. Our last remaining bastion of credibility sullied theirs because of the sense that we were too stupid to follow fact-driven guidance, and we're paying for it in record coronavirus deaths.

Just imagine if this pandemic started with mass mask-wearing and limited business shutdowns akin to Taiwan? It would have prevented the community transmission that turned the virus into a national pandemic and kept the simple act of wearing a mask from becoming politicized. With more realistic standards set for social distancing and guidelines, the population would have been paced enough that perhaps tyrannical shutdowns and personal lockdown fatigues in places such as California wouldn't be driving people to socialize solely in multigenerational superspreader gatherings in cramped households.

Alas, the experts lied and people died. Rubio is just the one member of the ruling class with the stones to call a spade a spade.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

The Minsky Moment

It's a bit bizarre to argue now that the US should have pushed harder on mask usage in March when: (1) we know pretty conclusively now that many Americans refuse to wear them and (2) there weren't enough at the time for universal usage.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 29, 2020, 12:01:24 PM
It's a bit bizarre to argue now that the US should have pushed harder on mask usage in March when: (1) we know pretty conclusively now that many Americans refuse to wear them and (2) there weren't enough at the time for universal usage.
I think the point is that he deliberately was.... slightly less than truthful and then admitted it.  AT some point people get irritated. Especially when bombarded by constant mockery by the fakeass patriots who are screaming that it is the mark of the beast.
PDH!

grumbler

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on December 29, 2020, 12:49:03 PM
I think the point is that he deliberately was.... slightly less than truthful and then admitted it.  AT some point people get irritated. Especially when bombarded by constant mockery by the fakeass patriots who are screaming that it is the mark of the beast.

Actually, he seems to have believed in March (as did Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House task force coordinator. the head of the CDC, and the WHO) that the unintended consequences of people touching their face was more a risk than the benefit warranted, and that's what he said in mid-March.  He also mentioned the need to supply existing masks to health care workers and first responders.  Late in March it became clear that asymptomatic people could spread the virus just through things like breathing and talking, and he reversed course by April 3rd.  There's zero evidence that he "deliberately was.... slightly less than truthful and then admitted it," though the right seems to like that as a talking point.

People get irritated at inconvenient truths because they want to get irritated.  Facts cannot dissuade them from being irritated, and they will seize on any excuse to do whatever the hell they want to do.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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