Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[garbon]

No, that's not really what makes you an idiot.

[Threviel]

Ohh, are we playing clue?

Is it my lack of communication skills making me seem much colder than what I actually mean?

[viper37]

You're making the wrong assumption. They think that if police bother you you must have broken the law, or at least something to draw attention. They don't consider that just being black can be enough to draw attention.

To be fair, both Floyd and Atlanta guy were breaking the law and under the influence. They were both being a nuisance.

That's not to say that they should have been executed.

Were they? That is (was?) up to the courts to decide. Innocent until proven guilty.

Floyd was breaking the law, he presented an apparently fake 20$ bill.  He cooperated up until they wanted to get him behind the car where he said he couldn't go because he was claustrophobic.  And from there, things escalated

I have read nothing that he was under the influence though.

[viper37]

They really get on all the stuff being banned. I can't think of anything that has been banned. What is the one group of people who economic hardship is being blamed on?

These people believe there are roaming bands of Antifas in every city of the South, ready to deface a Jefferson Davis statue - or worst.
The Russians know as well as the leftist activists which point to trigger in these people.

[Threviel]

I have read nothing that he was under the influence though.

Ohh, I was going on memory, I remembered it as if he was high and making a minor nuisance of himself. Counterfeit and theft is good enough reason to call the police. Not for them to murder him though.

[viper37]

I believe that if a police officer sees someone that he believes resembles some known hunted criminal it's quite reasonable that he investigates said someone.

I agree.  Up to the point where he pulls them over, see they have a 4 year old kid behind them and the guy specifically admits he has a gun and is reaching for his driver license just as the officer ordered him to do.

I believe it unreasonable that civilians walk around with guns if they have no particular reason to do it.

It's the Constitution, stupid. ;)What you find reasonable or not is irrelevant.  Their Constitution allows for the possession of guns, and in some places open carry.  That is part of the life and the police force should integrate it in their training.

I believe that many US police officers seem badly trained.

We're getting somewhere.

I believe that a society where everyone can be armed with hidden weapons it probably makes police a bit jumpy.

Again, irrelevant.  If police officers are nervous about that possibility, than they should join the ranks of those trying to reform the situation.  Which they don't seem to massively do.

[Threviel]

I completely agree.

[Valmy]

Floyd was breaking the law, he presented an apparently fake 20$ bill.

That is an accusation not a conviction. Whether or not he was breaking the law had not yet been determined.

[crazy canuck]

Floyd was breaking the law, he presented an apparently fake 20$ bill.

That is an accusation not a conviction. Whether or not he was breaking the law had not yet been determined.

It is not even an accusation with the word "apparently" being thrown in.

[Threviel]

Floyd was breaking the law, he presented an apparently fake 20$ bill.

That is an accusation not a conviction. Whether or not he was breaking the law had not yet been determined.

At which time a reasonable police force might arrest him to investigate the alleged crime. Or how would you have it?

The murder was an arrest gone horribly wrong, that doesn't mean that there was no reason for the arrest.

[Valmy]

Floyd was breaking the law, he presented an apparently fake 20$ bill.

That is an accusation not a conviction. Whether or not he was breaking the law had not yet been determined.

At which time a reasonable police force might arrest him to investigate the alleged crime. Or how would you have it?

The murder was an arrest gone horribly wrong, that doesn't mean that there was no reason for the arrest.

I was addressing the assertion in the image Syt published. That so long as you never break the law the police will leave you alone. This is not true. Being suspected of breaking the law and breaking the law are different and often it is circumstances outside of your control that puts you in the suspected category.

[Syt]

[Threviel]

Ahh, sorry. I didn't quite catch that.

[Valmy]

The government doesn't want to disarm anybody, that would be an administrative and political and law enforcement nightmare and ruinously expensive. Odd they get confused between some of their fellow citizens wanting fewer guns and some kind of government conspiracy.

[Valmy]

Well fortunately no political party is doing that Charlie Daniels unless wanting to beat a sitting President in an election is going to destroy his supporters somehow.