Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Zoupa]

Dude, you literally wrote this:

There is much to find contemptible about the case made for that war, you don't need to fabricate new outrage based on claims nobody actually made, like "nuclear weapons, were actively being developed" with what that is implying. Nobody who voted for that war or supported the war on the grounds of Saddam violating his agreements around his WMD programs did so because they were concerned that Saddam was on the verge of being a nuclear power any time soon.

How can you possibly compute claims nobody actually made, like "nuclear weapons, were actively being developed" with the smoking gun - mushroom cloud quotes? It literally means they wanted you to believe Hussein was developing nuclear weapons. There is no other way to interpret that phrase.

[PDH]

So sad....

What was once a mostly a decent thread about a couple of German-American families has dissolved into name calling, false statments, and vitriol.

[Zoupa]

It's amusing to see supposedly principled members of the "Left" copy the worst of the Fox News propaganda tactics.

If you repeat a lie long enough, at least YOU will start to believe it!

I'm quoting what you wrote and I'm quoting the Bush administration. How is that possibly propaganda? 

[mongers]

So sad....

What was once a mostly a decent thread about a couple of German-American families has dissolved into name calling, false statments, and vitriol.

[Razgovory]

It's amusing to see supposedly principled members of the "Left" copy the worst of the Fox News propaganda tactics.

If you repeat a lie long enough, at least YOU will start to believe it!

I'm quoting what you wrote and I'm quoting the Bush administration. How is that possibly propaganda? 

Man, you won.  When Berkut or Grumbler start to accuse someone of partisanship, tribalism, etc it means they are on the ropes.

[Zoupa]

The next step is usually semantics. Never admit you're wrong!

I'm sure that's healthy.

[The Brain]

What if you are, in fact, never wrong? I'm asking for a friend.

[The Minsky Moment]

I'm asking for a friend.

Bah

[Malthus]

I'm asking for a friend.

Bah

His friend is a sheep? 

[The Brain]

I'm asking for a friend.

Bah

His friend is a sheep? 

A man can't be friends with a sheep.

[Josquius]

Russia has truly worked absolite miracles on boomers minds.
It will be an utterly fascinating book to read in a few decades. Just how they did it. It's not so simple as just churning out "leftists eat babies" junk. There's a whole lot of priming and taken alone completely innocent stories pumpe dinto people to get them ready for the bollocks.

[HVC]

I'm asking for a friend.

Bah

His friend is a sheep? 

A man can't be friends with a sheep.

Never mix sex and friendship?

[DGuller]

Russia has truly worked absolite miracles on boomers minds.
It will be an utterly fascinating book to read in a few decades. Just how they did it. It's not so simple as just churning out "leftists eat babies" junk. There's a whole lot of priming and taken alone completely innocent stories pumpe dinto people to get them ready for the bollocks.

It's probably not some zero-day attack on people's rationality, but just the old truth that preying on people's fears makes them stop being rational, coupled with the massive force multiplier that algorithmic social media became.  I wouldn't be surprised if Russians themselves were taken aback by how effective it turned out to be.

[Admiral Yi]

Russia has truly worked absolite miracles on boomers minds.

Still sticking with your "90% joke" line Shelf?

[dps]

What? Do you not remember the smoking gun/ mushroom cloud bullshit? It was repeated by Bush, Cheney and al. in every fucking speech.

Berkut and Grumbler never could admit they were wrong on this bullshit.  They've been trying to claim they were justified for a decade and a half.

We were absolutely justified in invading Iraq.  The problem was that we had no real plan on what to do there after winning the war.