Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Tonitrus]

While the Constitution has many provisions protecting the right of U.S. citizens to vote (and defining what is a U.S. citizen); I don't think it ever states anywhere that non-citizens cannot vote.

[Valmy]

That is a rather bizarrely draconian and non-Constitutional solution to a non-problem I have to admit.

Granted I have no idea how California is allowing non-citizens to vote on in what elections, but since this was posted by Syt's relatives I assume this is either a lie or true but is being misrepresented in some way. They are compulsively posting complete fabrications and lies.

[Razgovory]

That is a rather bizarrely draconian and non-Constitutional solution to a non-problem I have to admit.

Granted I have no idea how California is allowing non-citizens to vote on in what elections, but since this was posted by Syt's relatives I assume this is either a lie or true but is being misrepresented in some way. They are compulsively posting complete fabrications and lies.

I seem to recall Germans having similar draconian solutions to non-problems in the past.

[Barrister]

That is a rather bizarrely draconian and non-Constitutional solution to a non-problem I have to admit.

Granted I have no idea how California is allowing non-citizens to vote on in what elections, but since this was posted by Syt's relatives I assume this is either a lie or true but is being misrepresented in some way. They are compulsively posting complete fabrications and lies.

I know we allow Permanent residents (but non-citizens) to vote in municipal elections.

[Tonitrus]

That is a rather bizarrely draconian and non-Constitutional solution to a non-problem I have to admit.

Granted I have no idea how California is allowing non-citizens to vote on in what elections, but since this was posted by Syt's relatives I assume this is either a lie or true but is being misrepresented in some way. They are compulsively posting complete fabrications and lies.

I know we allow Permanent residents (but non-citizens) to vote in municipal elections.

Euros have already taken the "balls of light" role.

But "balls of maple syrup" is still available.

[Malthus]

Euros have already taken the "balls of light" role.

But "balls of maple syrup" is still available.

"Balls of maple sugar" makes more sense ... 

[Eddie Teach]

Nah, then people say "wtf is maple sugar?"

[dps]

While the Constitution has many provisions protecting the right of U.S. citizens to vote (and defining what is a U.S. citizen); I don't think it ever states anywhere that non-citizens cannot vote.

Correct.  There are provisions requiring states to not restrict the right to vote based on certain things, but beyond those provisions, states can set their criteria for who can vote however they wish, and in the past some states did allow non-citizens to vote.  I don't know if it's true that California law currently allows non-citizens to vote, but I suspect it doesn't.

[Admiral Yi]

in the past some states did allow non-citizens to vote.

For federal elections?

[The Minsky Moment]

It's not true, but accuracy is clearly not a premium for someone who cites refusal to "Cooperate" with a commission that was disbanded months ago as an excuse to violate the Constitution.

[dps]

in the past some states did allow non-citizens to vote.

For federal elections?

According to Wikipedia, Federal law currently prohibits that.  This wasn't always the case, but I'm not sure if any states ever allowed non-citizens to vote in Federal elections.

[Tonitrus]

For the record, according to the California state constitution:

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION - CONS

ARTICLE II VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL [SECTION 1 - SEC. 20]  ( Heading of Article 2 amended June 8, 1976, by Prop. 14. Res.Ch. 5, 1976. )

SECTION 1.  All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their protection, security, and benefit, and they have the right to alter or reform it when the public good may require.
(Sec. 1 renumbered from Sec. 26 (of Art. 1) on June 8, 1976, by Prop. 14. Res.Ch. 5, 1976.)

SEC. 2.  A United States citizen 18 years of age and resident in this State may vote.

[dps]

For the record, according to the California state constitution:

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION - CONS

ARTICLE II VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL [SECTION 1 - SEC. 20]  ( Heading of Article 2 amended June 8, 1976, by Prop. 14. Res.Ch. 5, 1976. )

SECTION 1.  All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their protection, security, and benefit, and they have the right to alter or reform it when the public good may require.
(Sec. 1 renumbered from Sec. 26 (of Art. 1) on June 8, 1976, by Prop. 14. Res.Ch. 5, 1976.)

SEC. 2.  A United States citizen 18 years of age and resident in this State may vote.

Well, technically, that doesn't mean that non-citizens can't vote, but I suspect that what's going on with the thing about California registering non-citizens is that someone doesn't think that California is checking carefully enough that non-citizens aren't improperly being registered.

[Syt]

I think what happened (this came up before) is that California allowed non-citizens to register for elections of school boards or something like that.

[Tonitrus]

A quick look on Google suggests that only San Francisco did that.  That should not surprise anyone.