Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Valmy]

Who was it who had a mancrush on Speer? Hortense?

Yep. Is he Prime Minister yet?

[The Brain]

Who was it who had a mancrush on Speer? Hortense?

Yep. Is he Prime Minister yet?

I don't think so. The current PM is a waste of space but too far left I think.

[HVC]

he also wanted to bang the 14 year old daughters of clients; so you know, not the best moral compass out there. 

[CountDeMoney]

Who was it who had a mancrush on Speer? Hortense?

All Waffle-SS fanbois love Speer;  he's the "good nazi."

[Zanza]

The Germans don't erect statutes to Guderian, Manstein, and Speer and in front of their courthouses.

We do have things named for Erwin Rommel or Paul von Hindenburg though, although there is a slow tendency to remove especially Hindenburg.

[Razgovory]

The Germans have preserved Dachau, haven't they?

They don't really much of a choice.

[Zanza]

[Syt]

Your history lesson for the day.

Robert E Lee was married to George Washington's granddaughter. He worked with Grant during the Mexican-American war and became a decorated war hero defending this country He believed slavery was a great evil and his wife broke the law by teaching slaves to read and write. After the civil war he worked with Andrew Johnson's program of reconstruction. He became very popular with the northern states and the Barracks at West Point were named in his honor in 1962. He was a great man who served this country his entire life in some form or other. His memorial is now being called a blight. No American military veteran should be treated as such. People keep yelling, "You can't change history." Sadly you can. This is no better than book burnings. ISIS tried rewriting history by destroying historical artifacts. Is that really who we want to emulate?

As they tear down this "blight" keep these few historical facts in your mind. No military veteran and highly decorated war hero should ever be treated as such. This is not Iraq and that is not a statue of Sadam.

IN ADDITION:: Lee was also very torn about the prospect of the South leaving the Union. His wifes grandfather George Washington was a huge influence on him. He believed that ultimately, states rights trumped the federal government and chose to lead the Southern army. His estate, Arlington, near Washington DC was his home and while away fighting the war, the federal government demanded that Lee himself pay his taxes in person. He sent his wife but the money was not accepted from a woman. When he could not pay the taxes, the government began burying dead Union soldiers on his land. The government is still burying people there today. It is now called Arlington National Cemetery. DO THEY WANT TO TEAR THAT UP ALSO ??

[CountDeMoney]

   no, you can't change history.  Not even with shitty history rewrites.

The Arlington bit is hilarious, though.

[Valmy]

After the civil war he worked with Andrew Johnson's program of reconstruction.

Andrew Johnson's program was to try to veto everything and have it overturned by a 2/3rds Republican majority.

[viper37]

After the civil war he worked with Andrew Johnson's program of reconstruction.

Andrew Johnson's program was to try to veto everything and have it overturned by a 2/3rds Republican majority.

I had to read Wikipedia, because I'm not familiar at all with that part, and again, it seems to stretch the truth (as expected), but not an outright lie.  Or am I missing something?

Lee, who had opposed secession and remained mostly indifferent to politics before the Civil War, supported President Johnson's plan of Presidential Reconstruction that took effect in 1865–66. However, he opposed the Congressional Republican program that took effect in 1867. In February 1866, he was called to testify before the Joint Congressional Committee on Reconstruction in Washington, where he expressed support for President Andrew Johnson's plans for quick restoration of the former Confederate states, and argued that restoration should return, as far as possible, the status quo ante in the Southern states' governments (with the exception of slavery).[124]

[Oexmelin]

It's not a lie. It camouflages what "President Johnson's plan for Reconstruction" was - the quick reinstatment of Confederate states into the union, being BFF with white supremacists, and generally oppose voting rights for freedmen.

But of course, for those who wrote the above, these are probably all admirable traits.

[viper37]

It camouflages what "President Johnson's plan for Reconstruction" was - the quick reinstatment of Confederate states into the union, being BFF with white supremacists, and generally oppose voting rights for freedmen.

ah, I should have started with "reconstruction".
thanks.

[Admiral Yi]

Jack Kennedy included the senator who was the deciding vote to not impeach Johnson (fell one short IIRC) in his book "Profiles in Courage" in a very transparent effort to suck up to southern voters.

[Eddie Teach]

A third of the Senate were deciding votes.