Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Valmy]

Hey Seedy, have you joined the John Brown Gun Club yet?

He probably has started his own chapter.

[CountDeMoney]

Joined?  I'm not just a client, I'm the president!

[CountDeMoney]

Valmy, you fucker.   :mad:19 seconds. 

[Valmy]

Lee didn't own slaves.

Yes he did. What is your source?

Snopes. His father-in-law did.

His Father-in-Law died and he managed the estate and he was a pretty brutal master. His Father-in-Law freed his slaves on his death but Lee sued to keep the slaves in bondage but eventually the court made him free them...many years later. The whole affair was a pretty sorry one for somebody who supposedly was anti-slavery.

I guess he did not technically own them but that does not really justify anything. I mean I don't necessarily hold that against Lee but he gets portrayed as somehow outside the sins of his time for some reason that has no basis in reality, it is all Lost Cause nonsense.

[Valmy]

Valmy, you fucker.   :mad:19 seconds. 

Your joke was better

[derspiess]

Joined?  I'm not just a client, I'm the president!

Can't wait to see you patrolling with your revolver. If you want to borrow some red armbands, let me know.

[Malthus]

Hey Seedy, have you joined the John Brown Gun Club yet?

John Brown preferred using swords ...  [/Pottawatomie]

[viper37]

I never got the 'Lee was an abolishionist' thing. Or how he was opposed to slavery and secession but participated in both yet was a man of great integrity.

"opposed" would be too strong a word.  He didn't like it would be a more appropriate description from what I've read.
Kinda like a necessary evil to him.  But a necessary evil to the white man, less so to the black.

He inherited slaves in 1857, and as someone mentionned here before, you could not simply disband slaves like that when you inherit a property.  Slaves are collateral to loans, that'd be like giving your car today while it stills guarantee a loan.

He opposed secession until Virginia seceded and the North threatened to invade.  He could have joined the movement anytime before that, but he just could not lead an army against Virginia.

As for integrity, that depends on how you define it.  Everyone has its own definition, it seems.

[viper37]

This isn't to say that the monuments are "History," rather they're a reinterpretation of history where the south was a romantic "Lost Cause."  (Hollywood kept this myth alive until the 1940s.)

God and Generals was made way later than 1940 

[grumbler]

This isn't to say that the monuments are "History," rather they're a reinterpretation of history where the south was a romantic "Lost Cause."  (Hollywood kept this myth alive until the 1940s.)

God and Generals was made way later than 1940 

Gods and Generals was not a Hollywood movie.

[viper37]

This isn't to say that the monuments are "History," rather they're a reinterpretation of history where the south was a romantic "Lost Cause."  (Hollywood kept this myth alive until the 1940s.)

God and Generals was made way later than 1940 

Gods and Generals was not a Hollywood movie.

no? what is the required qualification then?

Distributed by    Warner Bros. Pictures
Country    United States

[grumbler]

no? what is the required qualification then?

Distributed by    Warner Bros. Pictures
Country    United States

That it be made by a Hollywood studio.  Ted Turner Pictures wasn't a Hollywood studio (and, in fact, made far more for TV than for theaters).

Gods and Generals (2003)
Company Credits

Production Companies
Turner Pictures (I) (as Ted Turner Pictures)
Antietam Filmworks
Esparza / Katz Productions (in association with)
Rehme Productions (in association with)
Mace Neufeld Productions (in association with)

You know, all that stud\ff you skipped past because it kinda made a mockery of your argument! 

WB being the distributor is neither here nor there.  WB distributes films from all over the world, to all over the world.  Not even you thought that "Distributed by" meant "Production company," because the production company was listed right there!

[derspiess]

Definitely a worthwhile thing to argue about.

[Savonarola]

Saw this on my Facebook feed, and then I saw the President has retweeted this:



Once upon a time I was going in style
Now I'm only going in shock
There's nothing I can do
A total eclipse of Barack

[Zanza]