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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: viper37 on July 22, 2017, 11:31:38 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 21, 2017, 07:45:59 PM
A private company in the same situation would settle, 100 times out of 100.
If that were the case, there would never be trials.

?
It's quite rare to have to defend a civil case where the country's highest court has already ruled against your defenses.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 22, 2017, 04:43:17 AM
Governments do enforce foreign court's orders from time to time, don't they? Like child support, maybe?  :hmm:

Sure on application and typically with notice to the other side.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: viper37 on July 22, 2017, 11:31:38 PM
To show the public where the problem lies: with judges that do not understand the terrorism threat.

The public already has a hard time understanding the function of the judiciary, a problem that affects both our countries, and for that matter, most countries with rule of law and an independent judiciary (think of the UK judges branded as traitors for ruling in favor of parliamentary sovereignty).  I don't think its useful to make that problem worse.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Savonarola

Strangely, based on my Facebook feed, Evo Morales (President of Bolivia) seems to have become a hero to libertarians:

Bolivia's President Declares 'Total Independence' from World Bank and IMF

Bolivarian socialism in a country whose principle export is oil and is led by a caudillo.  What could possibly go wrong? 

(These very same people pillory Maduro and the situation in Venezuela as the failure of socialism.)
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

derspiess

Quote from: Savonarola on July 26, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
Strangely, based on my Facebook feed, Evo Morales (President of Bolivia) seems to have become a hero to libertarians:

Bolivia's President Declares 'Total Independence' from World Bank and IMF

Bolivarian socialism in a country whose principle export is oil and is led by a caudillo.  What could possibly go wrong? 

(These very same people pillory Maduro and the situation in Venezuela as the failure of socialism.)

My only guess is that people forgot who he was, or never knew.  Or maybe they're just falling for Evo's good looks.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Grey Fox

Libertarians just really dislike the Cabal.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on July 26, 2017, 11:08:38 AM
My only guess is that people forgot who he was, or never knew.  Or maybe they're just falling for Evo's good looks.

Colonel Lando Calrissiano

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: derspiess on July 26, 2017, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 26, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
Strangely, based on my Facebook feed, Evo Morales (President of Bolivia) seems to have become a hero to libertarians:

Bolivia's President Declares 'Total Independence' from World Bank and IMF

Bolivarian socialism in a country whose principle export is oil and is led by a caudillo.  What could possibly go wrong? 

(These very same people pillory Maduro and the situation in Venezuela as the failure of socialism.)

My only guess is that people forgot who he was, or never knew.  Or maybe they're just falling for Evo's good looks.

Last I checked Bolivia was still a member of the IMF.  So for that matter is Venezuela.
Nothing prevents a signatory from withdrawing.  Want independence from the IMF? Simple:

QuoteAny member may withdraw from the Fund at any time by transmitting a notice in writing to the Fund at its principal office. Withdrawal shall become effective on the date such notice is received.

So Evo - put your pen where your mouth is and send the notice.
Otherwise STFU about "independence"
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Razgovory

Quote from: Savonarola on July 26, 2017, 11:05:31 AM
Strangely, based on my Facebook feed, Evo Morales (President of Bolivia) seems to have become a hero to libertarians:

Bolivia's President Declares 'Total Independence' from World Bank and IMF

Bolivarian socialism in a country whose principle export is oil and is led by a caudillo.  What could possibly go wrong? 

(These very same people pillory Maduro and the situation in Venezuela as the failure of socialism.)


A great deal of the Alt-right seems to have come from libertarians and anarcho-Capitalists, so I don't think personal liberty seems to be a major factor in those ideologies.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Savonarola

Quote from: Razgovory on July 26, 2017, 12:40:57 PM
A great deal of the Alt-right seems to have come from libertarians and anarcho-Capitalists, so I don't think personal liberty seems to be a major factor in those ideologies.

Okay, but Morales has nationalized the oil and natural gas industries (among other things).  That should be anathema to libertarians or anarcho-capitalists.
In Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace—and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock

sbr

 putting the globalists jews in their place is much more important than who might have "nationalized"  something something in a country fill of brown people.

Valmy

Quote from: sbr on July 26, 2017, 01:06:31 PM
putting the globalists jews in their place is much more important than who might have "nationalized"  something something in a country fill of brown people.

Yep. Extreme nationalism infects those groups...which is weird. They seem to either not know what Libertarianism actually is or they don't care.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Quote from: Savonarola on July 26, 2017, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 26, 2017, 12:40:57 PM
A great deal of the Alt-right seems to have come from libertarians and anarcho-Capitalists, so I don't think personal liberty seems to be a major factor in those ideologies.

Okay, but Morales has nationalized the oil and natural gas industries (among other things).  That should be anathema to libertarians or anarcho-capitalists.


Should be, but I don't think those things are actually important to them.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

grumbler

Quote from: sbr on July 26, 2017, 01:06:31 PM
putting the globalists jews in their place is much more important than who might have "nationalized"  something something in a country fill of brown people.

Okay... sure

(backs away, then turns around and runs as fast as he can)
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Eddie Teach

Grumbler could be the voice of reason, but instead runs away.  :(
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?