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Quote from: Razgovory on January 18, 2017, 07:51:47 AM
One problem:  They were almost all illiterate and thus wrote no history.

Somebody reacted in a similar way in the FB feed: "does the poster of this pic realise this map comes from historians (not Amerindians) and from a history book?".

Syt

http://conservativetribune.com/benghazi-survivor-hits-courageous/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=janbrewer&utm_content=2017-01-17&utm_campaign=can

QuoteBenghazi Survivor Challenges "Courageous" Rosie, Other Anti-Trumpers to Try Serving as Military, Cops

The word "courageous" gets tossed around a lot in very wrong contexts. Case in point: Hollywood celebrities like Meryl Streep or Rosie O'Donnell who make an ostentatious show of "standing up" to conservatives. This is doubly true when said conservative is Donald J. Trump.

However, one individual who actually merits the title of "courageous" — Benghazi survivor Kris Paronto, a former Army Ranger — is sick of the false comparisons. In an interview with the Independent Journal Review, Paranto had a challenge for "actors pretending to be someone else" — try actually putting on a uniform.

Paronto, whose role in Benghazi was chronicled in the movie "13 Hours," began by criticizing President Obama and his fealty to the cult of celebrity.

"(Obama) turned the position of commander in chief into a pop culture thing and pulled away from what the office of the president is all about — leadership," Paronto said.

"He wasn't supposed to be a celebrity, he was supposed to be a dignified leader. Still, Hollywood was all over celebrity Obama."

Paronto then criticized the celebrities who are being lionized by liberals for dropping out of Trump's inauguration festivities. "You're a monkey and somebody is turning the crank," he said.

"The only time I have a real issue with this at all is when these people are looked at as role models. When they back out, and publications like (The) New York Times or CNN put them on a pedestal for dropping out, it does a major disservice to Americans," Paronto said.

"They're not role models. There's nothing courageous about sitting in your $5 million dollar mansion and looking down upon us. It's arrogant, it's pompous, and it's not bravery."

The Benghazi survivor then threw down the gauntlet at liberal activists in Hollywood.

"They're all actors pretending to be someone else. Just because you played a police officer or military veteran, doesn't mean you understand what it's like to be in our shoes," Paronto said.

"So you know what, Meryl Streep, stop putting others down and go do something else. Be like Pat Tillman, drop everything you're doing and put your life on the line. Robert De Niro, you played a cop in the movies, go be a cop on the streets.

"The same principle applies to these other celebrities. You wore a uniform as a costume. Try putting one on to serve your country."

Paronto made it clear who he thought should really be getting called courageous.

"The real role models are the guy who goes and puts his life on the line for his country, the police officer who jumps in front of a bullet, and the EMT who treats the wounded on the scene, people who put others before themselves," he concluded. "Those are the true celebrities."

We couldn't agree more. Thanks for standing up for real celebrities, Mr. Paronto.

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Valmy

How is calling somebody 'courageous' a false comparison? I mean even if I don't think actors grandstanding is particularly courageous simply calling somebody courageous is not comparing them to battlefield veterans. Talk about a strawman.

And Trump is 100% the cult of celebrity.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Tamas

#3093
You know in Hungary, Orban has mannerism (that he also overplays heavily) very similar to the kind of rural morons that worship him.

So that at least makes a lot of sense. They can absolutely see it in a way that somebody from among them (who he really is, if you ignore a decade of grooming for future leadership roles by the communist party) is in power. Even if I deplore them, I see the reasoning behind their deplorable choice.

But WTF can white trash, and non-rich people in general, relate to in Trump? He is such an archetype of a narcissistic asshole raised in wealth and privilege, that it makes me cringe. He is everything his supporters loudly blame for the troubles of the world.


Berkut

Yeah, Trump supporters calling out celebrities for this shit is hilarious.

I fundamentally actually agree with the Ranger dude, at least in broad strokes. But I don't blame celebrities for speaking their mind, they have every right to do so.

I blame Americans for giving a shit about what Meryl Streep thinks about things she has no particular qualification around.

But then, the right has been eroding respect for thought, professionalism, and competency for a couple decades now, so we get Rick Perry as head of the DOE. So there you go.
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DGuller

Quote from: Tamas on January 18, 2017, 09:35:11 AM
But WTF can white trash, and non-rich people in general, relate to in Trump? He is such an archetype of a narcissistic asshole raised in wealth and privilege, that it makes me cringe. He is everything his supporters loudly blame for the troubles of the world.
I said this a while back, but most every person's rational brain has an off switch.  Appeal to something on a deeply emotional level, and these people literally turn insane when it comes to the person appealing to them.  It doesn't just work on deplorables, it works on everyone, although the non-deplorables are more resistant. 

Once those people turn insane, they don't even have any cognitive dissonance to contend with, they just don't even think at all.  Try to make them think and they'll just joke/troll/parrot/etc.  That's why it's so hard to get any Trump supporter here to be honest about their sympathies and debate openly:  they'll either stop being a Trump supporter as they quickly realize their position is untenable, or they'll just become catatonic trollers like derspiess.

LaCroix

Quote from: DGuller on January 18, 2017, 09:51:48 AMOnce those people turn insane

what do you think made 40% to half the nation turn insane? how does this affect their productivity at work?

Valmy

Quote from: LaCroix on January 18, 2017, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: DGuller on January 18, 2017, 09:51:48 AMOnce those people turn insane

what do you think made 40% to half the nation turn insane? how does this affect their productivity at work?

We have about 60% workforce participation so maybe it doesn't.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

LaCroix


DGuller

Quote from: LaCroix on January 18, 2017, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: DGuller on January 18, 2017, 09:51:48 AMOnce those people turn insane

what do you think made 40% to half the nation turn insane? how does this affect their productivity at work?
What made you quote me out of context?

derspiess

Quote from: Tamas on January 18, 2017, 09:35:11 AM
But WTF can white trash, and non-rich people in general, relate to in Trump? He is such an archetype of a narcissistic asshole raised in wealth and privilege, that it makes me cringe. He is everything his supporters loudly blame for the troubles of the world.

It's not that hard to see. He speaks his mind and loudly calls bullshit when he sees it.  No filter.  They absolutely love that, because that's how they act when they're amongst themselves.  It also helps that he is saying what most of them are thinking. 

You guys need to stop assuming that all poor people are natural socialists.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

LaCroix

overlooked the earlier part re: when it comes to the person appealing to them, but that doesn't answer the first question. if they're now insane and literally do not think at all about anything relating to trump, then what made this happen?

LaCroix

Quote from: derspiess on January 18, 2017, 10:04:52 AMIt's not that hard to see. He speaks his mind and loudly calls bullshit when he sees it.  No filter.  It also helps that he is saying what most of them are thinking.

it's certainly hard to see for some people. look at dguller's nonsense

Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on January 18, 2017, 10:04:52 AM
You guys need to stop assuming that all poor people are natural socialists.

Hey! I don't think ALL poor people are national socialists.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

Quote from: LaCroix on January 18, 2017, 10:05:16 AM
overlooked the earlier part re: when it comes to the person appealing to them, but that doesn't answer the first question. if they're now insane and literally do not think at all about anything relating to trump, then what made this happen?
Short answer?  Intolerance.