Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Ed Anger]

I like this thread.

I mean, we could sorta see glimpses of where the rightards stood beforehand, but this thread pulled all their shit out in the open.

I guess getting your champion elected as leader of the free world unshackles your tongue. Good for you, guys, good for you.

Lets be clear that our three vocal trumpeters on the board are a swiss, a pole, and an icelander.

Not as good of a joke as the rabbi, a priest and a Muslim walking into a bar.....

[DGuller]

Yeah, as far as jokes go, those three are pretty sad ones.

[CountDeMoney]

Lets be clear that our three vocal trumpeters on the board are a swiss, a pole, and an icelander.

Not as good of a joke as the rabbi, a priest and a Muslim walking into a bar.....

Why not, they're going to fuck the duck too.

[derspiess]

 Well this thread escalated quickly.

[Ed Anger]

Well this thread escalated quickly.

[The Minsky Moment]

Words are not violence. The fact that you do not see the difference is emblematic of your failed ideology.

Your victimhood gambit won't work any more. The spell is broken.

Democracy is about exchanging words.  If people deny all accountability for what they say, the system breaks down.  If you claim what people say doesn't matter you are denying the very premise behind democracy. 

Words are not violence but they what either prepares people to cause violence in an organized way or what brings them back from that brink. 

This isn't abstruse postmodernist theory, this is basic stuff; part of code of Western politics and society since the age of Pericles and Cicero.  Very naive position you are advancing here.

[The Minsky Moment]

Earlier today I referred to Trump as a 21st century Fernando Wood.  Wood, like Trump had a reputation for intemperate behavior, which is reflected in an anecdote that can be found of his wikipedia page:

In January 15, 1868, Wood was censured for the use of unparliamentary language. During debate on the floor the House of Representatives, Wood called a piece of legislation "A monstrosity, a measure the most infamous of the many infamous acts of this infamous Congress." An uproar immediately followed this utterance, and Wood was not permitted to continue. This was followed by a motion by Henry L. Dawes to censure Wood, which passed by a vote of 114-39.

It all seems very quaint now, doesn't it?

The last censure for unparliamentary language occurred in 1921, when a House member put into the record a letter (written by someone else) containing the words "damn" and "son of a bitch".  The sponsor of the censure resolution stated that the "there is not a member who will not say that it is the vilest thing he has ever seen in print"

Standards do change, and it is not such a terrible thing that we are more relaxed about the use of language in political setting, but we shouldn't kid ourselves that there isn't something real and valuable that is lost when public discourse is encouraged to follow the race to the very bottom of the gutter.  Conservatives - real conservatives - don't need to have this explained.  But we are in uncharted territory now. And to think there is no cost at all - indeed to celebrate and exult in it as some kind liberation against the oppression of prudes, squares and "social justice warriors" - again, very naive.

[derspiess]

Remember when Romney got blasted for the "binders full of women" remark in the debate?  Yeah, well now you got Trump.

[CountDeMoney]

Remember when Romney got blasted for the "binders full of women" remark in the debate?  Yeah, well now you got Trump.

"You didn't want to go lay back and tolerate date rape, so now you're going to deal with gang bang rape-rape.  Hope you're happy, cunt."

[Zoupa]

Somehow, even when their candidate wins, rightards still manage to say it's the liberals fault. Impressive in a mind boggling kind of way.

[CountDeMoney]

Somehow, even when their candidate wins, rightards still manage to say it's the liberals fault. Impressive in a mind boggling kind of way.

Even when it's not about the cock, it's all about the cock

[Zoupa]

Yup.

"We voted for him, made him President, but it's still your fault. You made us do it".

Sad!

[Admiral Yi]

Somehow, even when their candidate wins, rightards still manage to say it's the liberals fault. Impressive in a mind boggling kind of way.

Are you talking to your imaginary friend again?  WTF is this about?

[Zoupa]

Somehow, even when their candidate wins, rightards still manage to say it's the liberals fault. Impressive in a mind boggling kind of way.

Are you talking to your imaginary friend again?  WTF is this about?

Huh? I'm talking about derspiess blaming Trump's election on liberals. The left criticized Romney on misogyny. Apparently, we should have let that slide since the consequence is Trump being elected.

I don't get it either.

[Admiral Yi]

Huh? I'm talking about derspiess blaming Trump's election on liberals. The left criticized Romney on misogyny. Apparently, we should have let that slide since the consequence is Trump being elected.

I don't get it either.

I don't see you get that from what he wrote.  He was comparing the innocuous comment by Romney with Trump's full bore penis flapping.