Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[crazy canuck]

Well... if the phrase is meant to reflect the basic facts of employment that apply to all jobs, it seems a bit weird to make it the company value statement.

To me it comes across as an attempt to require the kind of dedication and esprit de corps you find in high morale military units. I can understand why it's desirable for a corporation if its people have that degree of commitment, but it seems a bit rich from the perspective as an employee. The context is a bit different, I'd think. Then again, I'll probably never work at Facebook, so what do I know?

Why is it odd?  I don't understand why a commitment to the very thing that all employees of the corporation are attempting to achieve should not be stressed.  Their whole Schtick now is "Meta".  It is not then all that surprising that those who are supposed to be working with you toward that goal are also part of the equation.

Now, of course, if you are not on board with that, fine.  But they probably don't want you either.   Isn't that the purpose of a value statement?

[Zoupa]

It's incredibly cringeworthy is all. It also sounds ridiculous to my non-protestant, non-Anglosaxon ears.

[crazy canuck]

It's incredibly cringeworthy is all. It also sounds ridiculous to my non-protestant, non-Anglosaxon ears.

Sure, I agree with that sentiment.  But then again, I think pretty much all value statements are cringeworthy.   

[Jacob]

Why is it odd?  I don't understand why a commitment to the very thing that all employees of the corporation are attempting to achieve should not be stressed.  Their whole Schtick now is "Meta".  It is not then all that surprising that those who are supposed to be working with you toward that goal are also part of the equation.

Now, of course, if you are not on board with that, fine.  But they probably don't want you either.   Isn't that the purpose of a value statement?

I thought we were arguing whether the value statement meant "conform to the basic principles of employment" or "strive to conduct yourselves according to the selfless values of a high morale military unit"?

It's only odd in the first case.

If it's the second case, it's a fine - if IMO cringeworthy - corporate value statement. As you so accurately say, I don't want them and they probably don't want me and that's part of the purpose of that kind of statement.

[crazy canuck]

Why is it odd?  I don't understand why a commitment to the very thing that all employees of the corporation are attempting to achieve should not be stressed.  Their whole Schtick now is "Meta".  It is not then all that surprising that those who are supposed to be working with you toward that goal are also part of the equation.

Now, of course, if you are not on board with that, fine.  But they probably don't want you either.   Isn't that the purpose of a value statement?

I thought we were arguing whether the value statement meant "conform to the basic principles of employment" or "strive to conduct yourselves according to the selfless values of a high morale military unit"?

It's only odd in the first case.

If it's the second case, it's a fine - if IMO cringeworthy - corporate value statement. As you so accurately say, I don't want them and they probably don't want me and that's part of the purpose of that kind of statement.

Yeah, its not dissimilar to a lot of stuff I see coming out of corporate consultant's recommendations.  IMO its a huge waste of resources that could be better spent on stuff that actually improves employee morale, retention, productivity etc.  But it is all the rage these days. 

[mongers]

Why is it odd?  I don't understand why a commitment to the very thing that all employees of the corporation are attempting to achieve should not be stressed.  Their whole Schtick now is "Meta".  It is not then all that surprising that those who are supposed to be working with you toward that goal are also part of the equation.

Now, of course, if you are not on board with that, fine.  But they probably don't want you either.   Isn't that the purpose of a value statement?

I thought we were arguing whether the value statement meant "conform to the basic principles of employment" or "strive to conduct yourselves according to the selfless values of a high morale military unit"?

It's only odd in the first case.

If it's the second case, it's a fine - if IMO cringeworthy - corporate value statement. As you so accurately say, I don't want them and they probably don't want me and that's part of the purpose of that kind of statement.

Yeah, its not dissimilar to a lot of stuff I see coming out of corporate consultant's recommendations.  IMO its a huge waste of resources that could be better spent on stuff that actually improves employee morale, retention, productivity etc.  But it is all the rage these days.

If you have to come up with such 'work makes you free' corporate BS, then it's indicative of some deeper problems within it.

[crazy canuck]

Why is it odd?  I don't understand why a commitment to the very thing that all employees of the corporation are attempting to achieve should not be stressed.  Their whole Schtick now is "Meta".  It is not then all that surprising that those who are supposed to be working with you toward that goal are also part of the equation.

Now, of course, if you are not on board with that, fine.  But they probably don't want you either.   Isn't that the purpose of a value statement?

I thought we were arguing whether the value statement meant "conform to the basic principles of employment" or "strive to conduct yourselves according to the selfless values of a high morale military unit"?

It's only odd in the first case.

If it's the second case, it's a fine - if IMO cringeworthy - corporate value statement. As you so accurately say, I don't want them and they probably don't want me and that's part of the purpose of that kind of statement.

Yeah, its not dissimilar to a lot of stuff I see coming out of corporate consultant's recommendations.  IMO its a huge waste of resources that could be better spent on stuff that actually improves employee morale, retention, productivity etc.  But it is all the rage these days.

If you have to come up with such 'work makes you free' corporate BS, then it's indicative of some deeper problems within it.

Rather it is "being part of this team and giving it your all is very rewarding".    If you have ever played a team sport at a competitive level you will have encountered a very similar message.  it is also no coincidence that sports teams and the military use the same approach (sports historically being a socializing process to get young men ready for performing their duty to their country).  It can also be an effective means of getting peak performance in specific circumstances and that is why all the corporate guru's make a mint selling this stuff to corporate bosses, whether or not it translates well.

[Josquius]

I don't know if these two twitter posters are known people but

[The Larch]

First one is a TV "doctor" (used to be a regular, reputed doctor, eventually turned into a snake oil salesman) made famous by Oprah Winfrey who is now entering politics as a Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz

No idea about the other guy.

[Habbaku]

I used to work for a company in which the quack Doctor was a major investor. He's a fucking fruitcake.

[Jacob]

[Eddie Teach]

No wonder he's having such difficulties, he started the game with his king out of commission.

[viper37]

I don't know... It looks like not all the residents were happy of the entertainment provided...

[Syt]

Stolen from reddit:



 

[Syt]