Should the Edmonton Eskimos have to change their name?

[Jacob]

Yes.

Edit: Also I noticed that since I became more at peace with myself, I have been less bothered by stuff like that.

i thought it was because you're shifting toward conservatism

Nah, I guess it's about becoming less insecure when you get older. For example, we have a shitty conservative government back in Poland right now but I am much more relaxed about it than I was 10 years ago. I have seen it all already - no point getting all worked up about it.

Yeah, you're confident that whatever shit they fling, the impact on you personally is likely going to be minimal. Other, more vulnerable, people may suffer but you'll be alright.

[Barrister]

No idea about Cleveland.

Native Americans have been complaining about the Redskins since...awhile. I saw my first demonstrators during Super Bowl XXVI and it was a weird realization that in fact my beloved and favorite football team did, in fact, have a racist name. It had never occurred to me before since I had never heard that word ever used outside of football.

and that makes sense. an organization of sufficient size complaining seems like a requirement to these name controversies. no one is complaining about the catholic/scandi/irish names. so, they remain

THis is only coming up now for the Eskimos because, until now, no large organization had ever complained about the name.

[LaCroix]

THis is only coming up now for the Eskimos because, until now, no large organization had ever complained about the name.

this goes back to what i said earlier. is this because no large organization had ever complained or because any large organization had an agreement with the edmonton eskimos until now? if it actually is the former, then, like my earlier point about time, why is time a factor? maybe the canadian eskimo organization felt a little uneasy about the whole thing but let it slide, until it saw team name changes occurring everywhere else.

[The Brain]

I wouldn't freak out if there was a team called Fergusson Faggots or Philadelphia Pollacks. The alliteration trumps all. 

No alliteration but at least you have Green Bay Packers.

[Razgovory]

Yes.

Edit: Also I noticed that since I became more at peace with myself, I have been less bothered by stuff like that.

i thought it was because you're shifting toward conservatism

Nah, I guess it's about becoming less insecure when you get older. For example, we have a shitty conservative government back in Poland right now but I am much more relaxed about it than I was 10 years ago. I have seen it all already - no point getting all worked up about it.

You are also becoming a more decent person.

[alfred russel]

I wouldn't freak out if there was a team called Fergusson Faggots or Philadelphia Pollacks. The alliteration trumps all. 

No alliteration but at least you have Green Bay Packers.

I think I have heard that team called the "Fudge Packers" almost as often as just the "Packers".

[jimmy olsen]

Why not change the name of the team to the Inuit?

[Eddie Teach]

It doesn't have the fearsome ring that "Eskimo" does.

[Admiral Yi]

do no indian groups complain of the cleveland/washington names? i don't know those controversies.

the "names and depictions 'foster negative stereotypes'" might be one justification, but it's not the only justification. it's not a requirement for a team to change its name and/or mascot.

The only thing that would constitute a requirement to change a name or mascot would be a law or a court order.

I maintain that in fact it is the only justification.  The starting point is that Indian groups find these names and mascots offensive, and when asked how they are offensive they continue that they foster negative stereotypes.

The real tragedy about this whole situation is that teams adopted Indian names and mascots to associate their team with positive values like courage and fortitude.  The paratroopers dropped over Normandy didn't wear Mohawks and shout Geronimo because they were trying to foster negative stereotypes.  They did it because they wanted to show how tough they were.

[katmai]

"Eskimo" is the proper term used by the US Census Bureau, Inuit is not proper term since it does not describe the people's in Alaska.  It has nothing to to with idea of "eater's of raw meat".  It is simply an exonyme.

I think Alaskan Eskimos are not bothered by the name of a CFL team.

Canadian Inuit, on the other hand...

You would be wrong, try calling folks up here eskimos and see what happens.

[Admiral Yi]

You would be wrong, try calling folks up here eskimos and see what happens.

What are we supposed to call them?

[katmai]

You would be wrong, try calling folks up here eskimos and see what happens.

What are we supposed to call them?

Depends where they are from, eskimo only applies to the Yupik folks and they would rather be called Yupik, then when you consider  considering there are also the Aleuts, Haida, Tlingit, Inupiat. It is annoying as when you assholes call Timmay a mexican

[Eddie Teach]

"What do you want to be called?"
"Yupik"
"Ok, you're an Eskimo."

[Valmy]

Ok how did we end up using the word the east coast Algonquians used for people who seem to live hundreds of miles away? Must be a story there.

[alfred russel]

"What do you want to be called?"
"Yupik"
"Ok, you're an Eskimo."

Fuck, what do you expect from us? We showed up in this hemisphere in 1492 and thought we were in India, so we called the locals Indians. Made sense, no offense was intended, we realized we were wrong in a year or so and this wasn't actually India. But you know what? 500+ years later we are still calling them Indians, the same as people actually from India.