The Paris Attack Debate Thread

[Eddie Teach]

I would've thought Putin's English was good enough to do without the interpreters. 

[mongers]

I would've thought Putin's English was good enough to do without the interpreters. 

It's supposed to be Ok, but I think he tends to speak Russian so there's a sort of level playing field in discussions.

On checking the woman is Obama's national security advisor, no idea on who the other Russian male is.

[DGuller]

I would've thought Putin's English was good enough to do without the interpreters. 

For some stupid diplomatic protocol reason, foreign leaders typically always speak in their own language when in public, no matter what level of mastery in the other's language they have.

[Josquius]

Seems to be a lot of people trying to belittle this attack. Going on about the incident in beirut and the university attack from months ago in Kenya. 

[Eddie Teach]

For some stupid diplomatic protocol reason, foreign leaders typically always speak in their own language when in public, no matter what level of mastery in the other's language they have.

Sure. I was thinking they were having a private discussion for some reason.

[celedhring]

Seems to be a lot of people trying to belittle this attack. Going on about the incident in beirut and the university attack from months ago in Kenya. 

The "you should feel bad about feeling bad about this attack, because you didn't feel bad enough about previous ones" crowd is getting on my tits.

[grumbler]

Seems to be a lot of people trying to belittle this attack. Going on about the incident in beirut and the university attack from months ago in Kenya. 

The "you should feel bad about feeling bad about this attack, because you didn't feel bad enough about previous ones" crowd is getting on my tits.

It is outrageous and offensive that you are not outraged enough about this incident to satisfy Tyr, and it is belittling to the most recent victims to even remember that there were previous victims.

You must stand ready, however, to forget this attack ever happened, should there be another attack somewhere else.  If you aren't fast enough in forgetting this attack  at that point, Tyr will be frustrated and mad at you for belittling the new victims.

[Duque de Bragança]

Seems to be a lot of people trying to belittle this attack. Going on about the incident in beirut and the university attack from months ago in Kenya. 

The "you should feel bad about feeling bad about this attack, because you didn't feel bad enough about previous ones" crowd is getting on my tits.

It seems that everybody has somebody like that in his circle of acquaintances or even worse, friends.

[Josquius]

There's even one friend of mine pretty much  saying France deserved it for pursuing a war of aggression and bombing civilians in Syria

Seems to be a lot of people trying to belittle this attack. Going on about the incident in beirut and the university attack from months ago in Kenya. 

The "you should feel bad about feeling bad about this attack, because you didn't feel bad enough about previous ones" crowd is getting on my tits.

It is outrageous and offensive that you are not outraged enough about this incident to satisfy Tyr, and it is belittling to the most recent victims to even remember that there were previous victims.

You must stand ready, however, to forget this attack ever happened, should there be another attack somewhere else.  If you aren't fast enough in forgetting this attack  at that point, Tyr will be frustrated and mad at you for belittling the new victims.

Wow. You sure got me. That is clearly 100% how I feel.

[Siege]

Reasonable Muslims at some point have to realize that there is too much about their religion that is fucked up, say to world that some things Mohammed said were retarded, that some of the Koran is bullshit, and either chuck it altogether or pick out some parts that are worth saving and invent a new religion.

Never gonna happen.
Their holy writings are available to every muslim and any intent to reform islam can be easily dismissed by the fundies by pointing out the correct passages in their Quran and Hadiths.

The problem with Islam is that, unlike any other universal religion, Islam was a warmongering ideology from the very begining.
Christianity was peaceful religion that was used by the powers that be as justification for power and expansion, so it was relatively easy to reform christianity by using the very bible used by the elites in power.

Judaism was a national religion which never had global pretentions and had several chock blocks built in to make impossible a global reach, like requiring all males to come 3 times a year to the temple, by having only one temple, and requiring religion conversion to be equal to national and cultural conversion. All these made expansion by conquest or colonization imposible for jews. Another built in safe block is the kosher diet, which forces jews to live in civilization and limits the reach of military campaigns by making living off the land a very difficult enterprise.

Bottom line, Mohaameed fucked up islam from the begining.
It cannot be reformed.
It can only be destroyed.

[Admiral Yi]

Never gonna happen.
Their holy writings are available to every muslim and any intent to reform islam can be easily dismissed by the fundies by pointing out the correct passages in their Quran and Hadiths.

I agree, which is why I said they have to discard Islam and create something new.

[Jaron]

What happened to Muslims? They used to be in mathematics and poetry and philosophy and all that good stuff. Nowadays they just blow things up and shoot places up.

[11B4V]

Never gonna happen.
Their holy writings are available to every muslim and any intent to reform islam can be easily dismissed by the fundies by pointing out the correct passages in their Quran and Hadiths.

I agree, which is why I said they have to discard Islam and create something new.

Discard all of it and be done. Don't restart nonsense.

[Admiral Yi]

Discard all of it and be done. Don't restart nonsense.

The charity part is nice.

[11B4V]

Discard all of it and be done. Don't restart nonsense.

The charity part is nice.

True, but people would do that anyway. Gays, kids, and the overall general population would be better off without the nonsense.