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Started by Hamilcar, November 12, 2015, 04:14:04 PM

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mongers

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

The Minsky Moment

Can't be done.
Keep pushing and the tobacco companies will come up with a smokable gun.  2nd amendment, baby.
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crazy canuck

We essentially have that here now - except for the private property bit.  We even have a ban for recreational outdoor areas and beaches.

crazy canuck

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 12, 2015, 04:17:47 PM
Can't be done.
Keep pushing and the tobacco companies will come up with a smokable gun.  2nd amendment, baby.

:D

Tonitrus

Just start making tobacco brownies instead.

Hamilcar

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 12, 2015, 04:17:47 PM
Can't be done.
Keep pushing and the tobacco companies will come up with a smokable gun.  2nd amendment, baby.

Let's go into business.

Jacob

Quote from: Hamilcar on November 12, 2015, 04:14:04 PM
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/12/9725176/smoking-bans-public-housing

Stats are compelling.

Not fond of tobacco smoke at all, but banning it will just increase profits for organized crime, with all the problems that entail.

Tonitrus

Yeah...and we're pretty much already doing the legalized marijuana approach with tax-and-regulate.

Keep it banned in public places, have help for those who want to quit easily available, and let those who want to stink/die do their thing.

Martinus

Relax , Hami. You will probably die of heart attack or prostate cancer anyway.

MadImmortalMan

The smell of cigarette smoke is permeating my house right now. I don't understand it. I don't smoke, nobody else is here, it must be coming from outside. Strange.
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"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

crazy canuck

Quote from: Jacob on November 12, 2015, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 12, 2015, 04:14:04 PM
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/12/9725176/smoking-bans-public-housing

Stats are compelling.

Not fond of tobacco smoke at all, but banning it will just increase profits for organized crime, with all the problems that entail.

The proposal is not to ban tobacco but rather to ban smoking indoors.  We are pretty much there in this city.  People can smoke all they want in their own homes - unless their home is in a strata which bans smoking. 

Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on November 12, 2015, 05:19:37 PM
The proposal is not to ban tobacco but rather to ban smoking indoors.  We are pretty much there in this city.  People can smoke all they want in their own homes - unless their home is in a strata which bans smoking.

Ah ok.

Monoriu

Prohibition on drugs and alcohol was attempted, and it didn't work. 

Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on November 12, 2015, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 12, 2015, 04:14:04 PM
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/12/9725176/smoking-bans-public-housing

Stats are compelling.

Not fond of tobacco smoke at all, but banning it will just increase profits for organized crime, with all the problems that entail.

That's a lousy argument.  It can be made for nearly anything.  Guns, Child Pornography, ham sandwiches, etc
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017