European Parliament votes in favour of 'two speed' internet

Started by Syt, October 29, 2015, 11:21:09 AM

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Syt

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-10/27/net-neutrality-european-union-vote

QuoteEuropean Parliament votes in favour of 'two speed' internet

The European Parliament has voted in favour of controversial net neutrality regulations. MEPs voted down four proposed amendments that critics argued would have closed loopholes in the regulations.

A last-minute rally by MEPs, academics and technology companies had attempted to add amendments to the draft regulation, but MEPs voted in favour of passing the unamended version.

Matt Carthy, MEP for Sinn Féin, said the defeat of the amendments showed that "corporate interests come first".

Critics of the unamended draft regulations had argued it would allow companies to pay for preferential treatment from ISPs and damage the free and open nature of the internet. The vote also confirms that mobile roaming charges will cease to exist across Europe by 15 June 2017.

Julia Reda, MEP for the Pirate Party in Germany, said the vote would allow for the creation of a "two speed" internet in the European Union.

"We are disappointed that the European Parliament has decided not to legislate on this critical issue," ​said Estelle Massé, policy analyst at human rights organisation Access Now. "By not supporting the necessary amendments to give clarity to the text, the Parliament has left it up to courts and national regulators to determine its meaning."

Campaigners in favour of stronger net neutrality had proposed four different amendments that they say would have increased the strength of the law, which was eventually passed.

The rejected amendments included proposals that would have ensured there was no network discrimination, all internet traffic would be treated equally, ISPs would not be allowed to become gatekeepers, and ISPs would have only been allowed to manage traffic when it was congested.

Günther Oettinger, the commissioner in charge of the Digital Economy and Society in the EU, said the vote would "deliver tangible results to improve the daily lives of Europeans".

"We will get for the first time ever net neutrality rules in EU law," he said. "These rules protect the right of every European to access the content of their choice, without interference or discrimination."

Tim Berner-Lee's Web Foundation went as far to say that Europe's decision on the issue took it a "giant step" away from being a "leader in the digital economy" and that the decision would "threaten innovation and free speech".

"Now, European start-ups may have to compete on an uneven playing field against industry titans, while small civil society groups risk having their voices overwhelmed by well-funded giants," said the Foundation's CEO, Anne Jellema.

Other critics of the regulations included leading technology firms such as Reddit and Wordpress. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), which also campaigned against threats to net neutrality in the United States earlier this year, said the regulations were potentially damaging.

But Jeremy Malcolm, senior global policy analyst at EFF, told WIRED that "overall Europe is in a better position today than it was yesterday." He said that although the amendments being voted down were "disappointing" the laws passed resulted in consistent net neutrality regulation across Europe for the first time.

"The disagreement is around the edges, the extent to which loopholes can be misused for purposes that go beyond legitimate network management," he said. "Those loopholes may or may not be exploited but I guess we will see as this rolls out."

EDRi, a coalition of 31 European privacy and civil rights organisations, said MEPs had "avoided making decisions on all crucial points" of the legislation.

"Now, national regulators will have to decide – on abuses imposed through 'zero rating', on rules on congestion management, on specialised services and so on," said Joe McNamee, ERDi's director. Alliance of Liberal Democrats MEP Marietje Schaake said her colleagues had "missed an opportunity" to impose stronger net neutrality regulations.

The next step for the legislation will see the Body of European Regulators (BEREC) issue guidelines to national bodies -- Ofcom will be responsible in the UK -- on how it will work in practice.

German Telekom have already thought aloud about charging companies a few % of their revenue to provide services like video conferencing, but also pointing out that a company like Spotify could only establish itself because they have free access to the T-Mobile customers (so I presume neither T-Mobile customers nor Spotify pay for their net access, and T-Mobile customers don't additionally pay for their data plans?).
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celedhring

I wish the article elaborated a bit on those supposed "loopholes" so I could form an actual opinion whether the outrage is warranted or not.

crazy canuck

Quote from: celedhring on October 29, 2015, 11:40:52 AM
I wish the article elaborated a bit on those supposed "loopholes" so I could form an actual opinion whether the outrage is warranted or not.

Exactly what I was thinking.  Its not helpful to know that the dispute is "around the edges"  it is always the details that matter in legislation like this.

Syt

The main point of contention (at least from my understanding) was that the regulation allows service providers to offer "premium service" to customers who pay for it. So you could have Netflix paying Telekom extra money so that their product is always given priority and customers get a good experience, whereas Crapflix could refuse to pay (or be a small startup lacking the funds to pay) and would have stuttering/buffering for the end customers because they're in the same lane as Vlad's 10 billion spam mails and Yang who torrents 2,000 GB of hentai.

It's also possible that ISPs could target customers with packages. You want to watch Netflix a lot? You better come to me.
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Tamas

EU favouring big business and suffocating small ones - film at 11

celedhring

Quote from: Syt on October 29, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
The main point of contention (at least from my understanding) was that the regulation allows service providers to offer "premium service" to customers who pay for it. So you could have Netflix paying Telekom extra money so that their product is always given priority and customers get a good experience, whereas Crapflix could refuse to pay (or be a small startup lacking the funds to pay) and would have stuttering/buffering for the end customers because they're in the same lane as Vlad's 10 billion spam mails and Yang who torrents 2,000 GB of hentai.

Well, if that's the case it certainly looks more than just a "loophole" to me.  :huh:


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Zanza

I haven't read any details, but the reporting in Germany media makes it sound like a really terrible idea. Basically what Tamas says: it strongly favors the incumbents.

Richard Hakluyt

Quote from: Syt on October 29, 2015, 12:12:03 PM
The main point of contention (at least from my understanding) was that the regulation allows service providers to offer "premium service" to customers who pay for it. So you could have Netflix paying Telekom extra money so that their product is always given priority and customers get a good experience, whereas Crapflix could refuse to pay (or be a small startup lacking the funds to pay) and would have stuttering/buffering for the end customers because they're in the same lane as Vlad's 10 billion spam mails and Yang who torrents 2,000 GB of hentai.

It's also possible that ISPs could target customers with packages. You want to watch Netflix a lot? You better come to me.

Sounds like a way to increase the rent that ISPs can extract from the punters/industry, ie not good.

Tamas

Quote from: Zanza on October 29, 2015, 01:32:37 PM
I haven't read any details, but the reporting in Germany media makes it sound like a really terrible idea. Basically what Tamas says: it strongly favors the incumbents.

I think that is such a pattern. I mean, I do realise this is actually in a way a "less regulation" approach - ISPs can charge with whatever they can get away with. It is just ironic that such regulative organisations only favour the free-market angle when it helps the established big companies with the lobbying power to achieve their agenda with the regulators.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Tamas on October 30, 2015, 05:09:53 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 29, 2015, 01:32:37 PM
I haven't read any details, but the reporting in Germany media makes it sound like a really terrible idea. Basically what Tamas says: it strongly favors the incumbents.

I think that is such a pattern. I mean, I do realise this is actually in a way a "less regulation" approach - ISPs can charge with whatever they can get away with. It is just ironic that such regulative organisations only favour the free-market angle when it helps the established big companies with the lobbying power to achieve their agenda with the regulators.

nothing ironic about it given that politicians usually have side-jobs in boards of this and that company.

Tamas

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 30, 2015, 06:26:58 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 30, 2015, 05:09:53 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 29, 2015, 01:32:37 PM
I haven't read any details, but the reporting in Germany media makes it sound like a really terrible idea. Basically what Tamas says: it strongly favors the incumbents.

I think that is such a pattern. I mean, I do realise this is actually in a way a "less regulation" approach - ISPs can charge with whatever they can get away with. It is just ironic that such regulative organisations only favour the free-market angle when it helps the established big companies with the lobbying power to achieve their agenda with the regulators.

nothing ironic about it given that politicians usually have side-jobs in boards of this and that company.

But in the meantime this system is being sold to the public as Protecting Teh Little People. Which is precisely the one and only thing it does NOT do.

Syt

Quote from: Tamas on October 30, 2015, 05:09:53 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 29, 2015, 01:32:37 PM
I haven't read any details, but the reporting in Germany media makes it sound like a really terrible idea. Basically what Tamas says: it strongly favors the incumbents.

I think that is such a pattern. I mean, I do realise this is actually in a way a "less regulation" approach - ISPs can charge with whatever they can get away with. It is just ironic that such regulative organisations only favour the free-market angle when it helps the established big companies with the lobbying power to achieve their agenda with the regulators.

Compare with the TPP copyright plans, created under advice of over 100 corporations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership_intellectual_property_provisions#Criticisms

There's some commentary on the web that outlines that some of the rules could make games modding illegal, or revealing parts of code or functionality of software. A lot of the language seems to be very (deliberately?) vague, though.

Summary video for gamers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIJVetzaHs
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