Routine Shootings at US Schools and Universities Megathread.

[Monoriu]

Never did any kind of fire drills or anything like that.  Probably because there simply was no open space that allowed all students to gather.  Only way to get the students out was to tell them to go home from school.

[MadBurgerMaker]

The safety concerns we had when I was in elementary school was fire and what to do in case of a nuclear attack.  As a recall the answer to both was to form a line and calmly walk out to of the school to the playing field.

We were instructed to either crouch under our desks or against the wall in the hallway in the event of a nuclear attack.  It was just the same stuff as a tornado warning.

Going out onto the playground is better.  At least you guys would get a good view of the canned sunshine before being vaporized. 

E:  This makes me wonder how many warheads SA would have taken back in the day.  There were (are still) a bunch of bases in town, so presumably my best hope was that I would become a regular non-feral ghoul after all the radiation exposure.  Being a kid ghoul seems like it would suck pretty hard though.

[Grey Fox]

[PJL]

Given the latest news, looks like it's bye bye FBI, as least in it's current form.

Given the latest latest news, looks like the FBI PR department is better than their other departments.

[Razgovory]

I'm not sure what law enforcement can do if unless a guy gives a very specific threat.

[ulmont]

I'm not sure what law enforcement can do if unless a guy gives a very specific threat.

Well, you could follow up on a "tip that Nikolas Cruz owned guns, wanted to kill people, and could be a future school shooter."
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/16/17020764/nikolas-cruz-fbi-report-authorities

[Razgovory]

I'm not sure what law enforcement can do if unless a guy gives a very specific threat.

Well, you could follow up on a "tip that Nikolas Cruz owned guns, wanted to kill people, and could be a future school shooter."
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/16/17020764/nikolas-cruz-fbi-report-authorities

What could you charge him with?

[mongers]

I'm not sure what law enforcement can do if unless a guy gives a very specific threat.

Well, you could follow up on a "tip that Nikolas Cruz owned guns, wanted to kill people, and could be a future school shooter."
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/16/17020764/nikolas-cruz-fbi-report-authorities

What could you charge him with?

What would a terrorist be charged with in the same situation?

[Admiral Yi]

What would a terrorist be charged with in the same situation?

Nothing.

[dps]

We never had lockdown drills when I was a kid. Only fire drills.

Lots of things were different. It was just a more innocent or more naïve time - I once brought a crossbow in to grade 6 for show-and-tell; the teachers loved it, and the whole class trooped out to the yard for an officially encouraged shooting demo. Nowadays, a kid doing that would probably end up in handcuffs. 

We never had any lockdown drills, and it's probably a good thing we didn't.  We would have probably rioted.

Lockdowns are a stupid idea anyway.  "Let's keep the students and teachers trapped in the building with the gunman instead of letting them run away from him".  Just fucking brilliant.

[DGuller]

We never had lockdown drills when I was a kid. Only fire drills.

Lots of things were different. It was just a more innocent or more naïve time - I once brought a crossbow in to grade 6 for show-and-tell; the teachers loved it, and the whole class trooped out to the yard for an officially encouraged shooting demo. Nowadays, a kid doing that would probably end up in handcuffs. 

We never had any lockdown drills, and it's probably a good thing we didn't.  We would have probably rioted.

Lockdowns are a stupid idea anyway.  "Let's keep the students and teachers trapped in the building with the gunman instead of letting them run away from him".  Just fucking brilliant.

Do you know they're a stupid idea, or do you think they are?

[The Brain]

What would a terrorist be charged with in the same situation?

Nothing.

Surely a terrorist would be charged with whatever crime he committed that had made him a terrorist, unless he'd already been tried for it.

[Admiral Yi]

Surely a terrorist would be charged with whatever crime he committed that had made him a terrorist, unless he'd already been tried for it.

mongers asked about the same situation.

[The Brain]

Surely a terrorist would be charged with whatever crime he committed that had made him a terrorist, unless he'd already been tried for it.

mongers asked about the same situation.

Yes?

[Razgovory]

The problems is that making it's really hard to convict someone for simply "wanting" to commit a crime.  They tend to need to make a specific threat or take some sort of concrete step, or plan something with another person.