Sea level rise will swallow Miami, New Orleans, study finds

[Grey Fox]

Atleast the article isn't peddling the usual "Save the Planet" bullshit.

[Monoriu]

It is not possible to take action against global warming.  Those who need to make the sacrifices will unlikely reap the benefits.  The current generation living in, say, the interior provinces of mainland China will need to refrain from buying cars so that half a century from now, the city of Miami will not sink below sea level?  That simply won't happen.  Forget it, it is a lost cause.

If China's government takes action to keep HK, Shanghai and other coastal Chinese cities from also sinking, maybe.

Thing is, even if China's government is willing to do it, it is meaningless unless everybody else in the world also does it.  "It" being things like stop buying cars, stop generating electricity using coal and oil, etc.  I don't think it will happen.

This is a incredibly dishonest argument.

The idea that the only possible options are "do nothing" and "stop buying cars" is just an excuse to, well, do nothing.

There is plenty that can be done given the political will to act.

There is insufficient political will across the globe to act.

[Berkut]

It is not possible to take action against global warming.  Those who need to make the sacrifices will unlikely reap the benefits.  The current generation living in, say, the interior provinces of mainland China will need to refrain from buying cars so that half a century from now, the city of Miami will not sink below sea level?  That simply won't happen.  Forget it, it is a lost cause.

If China's government takes action to keep HK, Shanghai and other coastal Chinese cities from also sinking, maybe.

Thing is, even if China's government is willing to do it, it is meaningless unless everybody else in the world also does it.  "It" being things like stop buying cars, stop generating electricity using coal and oil, etc.  I don't think it will happen.

This is a incredibly dishonest argument.

The idea that the only possible options are "do nothing" and "stop buying cars" is just an excuse to, well, do nothing.

There is plenty that can be done given the political will to act.

There is insufficient political will across the globe to act.

Political will is not a constant.

[Valmy]

There is insufficient political will across the globe to act.

Don't care. If we act and China doesn't then we can shame and humiliate the Chinese government for manufacturing an international meltdown. They love being made to look idiotic publicly. Anyway technology is the answer and I think we are on our way to solving it. Maybe even around the same time Miami disappears beneath the waves and Dorsey only has one College Football team left to root for.

[Monoriu]

There is insufficient political will across the globe to act.

Don't care. If we act and China doesn't then we can shame and humiliate the Chinese government for manufacturing an international meltdown. They love being made to look idiotic publicly.

I don't think any global warming action plan can hope to have any practical chance of success without serious committments from China. 

[Valmy]

I don't think any global warming action plan can hope to have any practical chance of success without serious committments from China. 

China is not going to be a leader in this arena. But they will follow along if everybody important does it first.

[lustindarkness]

Mono, do you know how to swim?

[Monoriu]

Mono, do you know how to swim?

I do

[Monoriu]

I don't think any global warming action plan can hope to have any practical chance of success without serious committments from China. 

China is not going to be a leader in this arena. But they will follow along if everybody important does it first.

China will say they have done a lot.  Whether they will actually do a lot is another story.  Another crucial difference between China and the west is that the population is quite indifferent to global warming.  It is not just the government that you have to convince.

[lustindarkness]

Mono, do you know how to swim?

I do

Good, good.

[Valmy]

China will say they have done a lot.  Whether they will actually do a lot is another story.  Another crucial difference between China and the west is that the population is quite indifferent to global warming.  It is not just the government that you have to convince.

Why do we need to convince the people? Their opinion doesn't count for anything.

[Monoriu]

Mono, do you know how to swim?

I do

Good, good.

I can do it for like 40 minutes.  In a pool.  Slowly.  Under the right conditions, e.g. water temperature, etc. 

[Monoriu]

China will say they have done a lot.  Whether they will actually do a lot is another story.  Another crucial difference between China and the west is that the population is quite indifferent to global warming.  It is not just the government that you have to convince.

Why do we need to convince the people? Their opinion doesn't count for anything.

Contrary to popular perception, the Chinese Communist Party isn't omnipresent or omnipowerful.  Sure, they can enforce quite a few things, but not everything.  Reducing carbon emissions will not be a priority. 

[Valmy]

Contrary to popular perception, the Chinese Communist Party isn't omnipresent or omnipowerful.  Sure, they can enforce quite a few things, but not everything.  Reducing carbon emissions will not be a priority. 

We'll see. But the US is a pretty important player in this as well.

[Eddie Teach]

I can do it for like 40 minutes.  In a pool.  Slowly.  Under the right conditions, e.g. water temperature, etc. 

How far away is your apartment from the Peak?