Every Chinese citizen will soon have a score based on how they live and conform

Started by Syt, October 06, 2015, 07:50:02 AM

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Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 06, 2015, 11:42:55 AM
We are getting pretty close to this, at least potentially, in the UK with our "hate" speech, obscene pornography and "extremist" laws. I suppose that the better-behaved half of the population has not been in breach of these laws, but for the half of us who are sinners we could technically be charged.

It can be pretty difficult for the average person to avoid breaking the law when there are so many laws and of such complexity.
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KRonn

Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2015, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 06, 2015, 10:10:12 AM

In that context, is gaming the system a bad thing?  If everyone starts singing the praises of the Communist Party to get a better score, then isn't it what they want?

Oh I forgot to mention one thing.  They buy praises on the internet.  No need to do this the convoluted way.  Hundreds of thousands of university students have been hired to do nothing but browse the internet all day, looking for opportunities to praise the government and discredit anybody who criticises the government.  At 50 cents RMB per post (like US$0.08).  So they are called the 50 cent army/party.

Totally bizarre.   :wacko:

Ideologue

Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2015, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 06, 2015, 10:10:12 AM

In that context, is gaming the system a bad thing?  If everyone starts singing the praises of the Communist Party to get a better score, then isn't it what they want?

Oh I forgot to mention one thing.  They buy praises on the internet.  No need to do this the convoluted way.  Hundreds of thousands of university students have been hired to do nothing but browse the internet all day, looking for opportunities to praise the government and discredit anybody who criticises the government.  At 50 cents RMB per post (like US$0.08).  So they are called the 50 cent army/party.

Where can I apply?
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DGuller

Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2015, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 06, 2015, 10:10:12 AM

In that context, is gaming the system a bad thing?  If everyone starts singing the praises of the Communist Party to get a better score, then isn't it what they want?

Oh I forgot to mention one thing.  They buy praises on the internet.  No need to do this the convoluted way.  Hundreds of thousands of university students have been hired to do nothing but browse the internet all day, looking for opportunities to praise the government and discredit anybody who criticises the government.  At 50 cents RMB per post (like US$0.08).  So they are called the 50 cent army/party.
Some Western propaganda tools claim that something like this exists in Russia as well.  It's false, of course, but the dying fascist Western powers will do everything to smear Russia, now that it's getting off its knees.

viper37

Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2015, 09:47:01 AM
I wonder how we can avoid getting a negative score. 
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"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
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Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on October 06, 2015, 11:41:14 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 06, 2015, 11:36:36 AM

Yeah. Or to tell black people that they better behave in front of a policeman or they can get shot for acting in a "threatening" manner. ;)

OMG you mean the US is A COMPLETELY EVIL TOTALITARIAN STATE!!11

Of course it is Marty. All of our Presidents are Hitler. Better ally with Putin.

But yes. That is basically how it works. You do not even have to shoot that many people.

I was being cheeky. :P

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Monoriu

Quote from: Ideologue on October 06, 2015, 12:52:40 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2015, 11:08:49 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 06, 2015, 10:10:12 AM

In that context, is gaming the system a bad thing?  If everyone starts singing the praises of the Communist Party to get a better score, then isn't it what they want?

Oh I forgot to mention one thing.  They buy praises on the internet.  No need to do this the convoluted way.  Hundreds of thousands of university students have been hired to do nothing but browse the internet all day, looking for opportunities to praise the government and discredit anybody who criticises the government.  At 50 cents RMB per post (like US$0.08).  So they are called the 50 cent army/party.

Where can I apply?

Can you type Chinese?  :)

Razgovory

Quote from: Monoriu on October 06, 2015, 11:25:46 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 06, 2015, 11:04:58 AM
I am reminded of people saying what it was like to live in Revolutionary Iran. The Revolutionary Guards would arrest people for completely arbitrary reasons. Really devout Islamic folks would get arrested for tiny little infractions. One woman was arrested for having too much of a head scarf. It created an atmosphere of paranoia, demoralization, and subservience among the population.

I am also reminded of Russia having such a complicated and opaque tax system that nobody really followed it...and it would be enforced almost entirely to attack people the state did not like and made everybody eager to keep on the powers that be's good side.

Arbitrariness is a pretty powerful tool.

One of the most brilliant crimes invented in ancient China was called "unnecessary".  Imagine one day, the state accuses you of having committed a crime.  You are dragged in front of a tribunal, and you ask the court what crime you have committed.  The judge announces that the title of your crime is "unnecessary" - he doesn't even need to have a pretext for prosecution.  The emperor can execute anybody he pleases, anywhere, any time, and he doesn't need to prepare a story for it.  How can you answer a case that doesn't exist?

There is a classic American novel about this very concept.  It's a comedy.
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Interesting this pops up at the same time there is a fuss in the west about that awful "Peepl" thing :lol:
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017