If These Men Aren’t Guilty, Why Can’t They Go Free?

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jimmy olsen

Disgraceful  :mad:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/melissasegura/officials-doubt-these-men-are-guilty-but-they-cant-go-free#.cq7vjJ3V7

QuoteIf These Men Aren't Guilty, Why Can't They Go Free?

A major investigation says these four men convicted of murder are probably innocent. But prosecutors say that doesn't matter — and the report should remain secret. A BuzzFeed News investigation.

posted on Oct. 6, 2015, at 12:54 a.m.
Melissa Segura

Four men who were convicted of murder but who maintained they had been framed by a Chicago police detective are all probably innocent, an official investigation has found. The investigation, which was commissioned by Mayor Rahm Emanuel and obtained by BuzzFeed News, has not been made public.

Despite its findings, the Cook County State's Attorney's Office will not reopen any of the men's cases. In a written statement to BuzzFeed News, Sally Daly, the director of communications, said that the report "made credibility determinations that are contrary to the opinions of the Office of the State's Attorney, contrary to those made by the triers of fact in each of these cases, and contrary to those made by the Judges that have presided over these cases for decades." She continued, "[W]e have no new credible evidence or information to suggest that these convictions should be vacated."

The city's investigation — currently under a court-ordered seal — says that Roberto Almodovar, 40, Robert Bouto, 39, Jose Montanez, 48, and Armando Serrano, 43, were most likely innocent. Almodovar received a life sentence, while Bouto, Montanez, and Serrano are serving 45 years. All four men are still appealing their convictions.
Cook County prosecutors are slated to return to court on Tuesday to fight Almodovar's appeal. In previous hearings they have argued that the contents of the investigation should be kept secret.

The inquiry, led by a former U.S. attorney, centered on a retired police detective named Reynaldo Guevara.

For more than three decades, residents of Chicago's predominantly Latino Humboldt Park neighborhood have alleged that Guevara manipulated lineups and witnesses, beat suspects, coerced confessions, and purposely mistranslated statements from witnesses and suspects in order to frame at least 40 people. Lawyers for Guevara were not immediately available for comment.

In the case of Almodovar, who was 19 when, 21 years ago, police arrested him for the fatal shooting of two people, the report concludes, "It is more likely than not that he is in fact innocent of the murders for which he was convicted." Investigators note that no physical evidence links Almodovar to the shooting and that one eyewitness identification critical to his conviction was made under "undisputedly challenging circumstances."

The investigators cited Almodovar's alibi evidence as "compelling": At the time of the murders, multiple witnesses say, Almodovar and his girlfriend were at his aunt's house fighting loudly. His aunt said she was sure of the date because she was worried the fighting would keep her son awake on the night before his first day of school. Investigators also noted the lack of physical evidence linking Almodovar to the shooting and the "undisputedly challenging circumstances" surrounding one eyewitness. That witness recanted his testimony after the trial, saying Det. Guevara had coached him to identify Almodovar in a lineup. (He said he had also been coached to identify Almodovar's co-defendant, whom the investigation report does not discuss.)

Investigators in the case of Serrano and Montanez ended their 58-page summary of findings by writing, "Looking at all the evidence, we conclude that Montanez and Serrano are more likely than not actually innocent."

Serrano and Montanez were convicted of killing a 27-year-old man on Feb. 5, 1993. The case went cold for four months, until Francisco Vicente, a drug addict who was in jail for armed robberies, told police he had heard the two confess. His testimony served as the linchpin in their conviction.

Shortly thereafter, Vicente told police he had also heard the confession of Robert Bouto, who was accused of killing a 15-year-old boy outside his high school.

The report notes the "improbability" that Vicente received so many confessions within weeks of each other.

Vicente has since admitted to fabricating these accounts in hopes of a reduced sentence in his armed robbery cases. He faced as many as 30 years, but at the prosecution's request, Vicente received a nine-year sentence; he served three years.

In their 44-page analysis of the Bouto case, investigators write, "[W]e find it more likely than not that someone other than Robert Bouto shot and killed Salvador Ruvalcaba."

While the reports are clear about the likelihood of innocence in the men's cases, they are much more restrained in their findings regarding Guevara's alleged misconduct. In the Montanez and Serrano report, the investigators write, "[W]e cannot conclude whether or not there was misconduct by the police regarding the alleged confessions. There are too many possibilities, too many inconsistent facts, and a lack of credible witnesses."

In 2009, a federal jury awarded Juan Johnson a then-record $21 million after concluding that Guevara bullied witnesses into identifying Johnson in a 1989 murder outside of a nightclub. Johnson spent 11 years in prison before being acquitted in a retrial. The jury stipulated that Guevara himself had to pay $15,000 for his role in the case.

Jennifer Bonjean, an attorney representing Almodovar, Bouto, and Serrano, filed a motion asking the courts to remove the protective order on the reports. "Any effort to further conceal them amounts to nothing short of a conspiracy to subvert justice and truth," she told BuzzFeed News. Her clients "have to sit there and wait for the system to see reason," she said. "It's a constant reminder that they're seen as less than human."

The decision not to reopen any of the Guevara cases comes at a delicate time for State's Attorney Anita Alvarez, who faces criticism that her tough-on-crime approach is too rigid for the current political moment. The two-time incumbent did not garner the backing of her fellow Democrats last month, meaning she will have to run in a March primary race.

Almodovar's aunt, Mary Rodriguez, says her family is frustrated by the state's attorney's refusal to reconsider her nephew's case.

"It's not about justice," Rodriguez says. "How could you not see the pattern with Guevara? How could they ignore it? It's wrong to give them guys just a little light at the end of the tunnel and then it just closes shut."
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LaCroix

buzzfeed article title says they're not guilty, yet they were found guilty. :hmm:

dps

I'd say that the answer to the question in the thread title is right here:

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Despite its findings, the Cook County State's Attorney's Office will not reopen any of the men's cases. In a written statement to BuzzFeed News, Sally Daly, the director of communications, said that the report "made credibility determinations that are contrary to the opinions of the Office of the State's Attorney, contrary to those made by the triers of fact in each of these cases, and contrary to those made by the Judges that have presided over these cases for decades." She continued, "[W]e have no new credible evidence or information to suggest that these convictions should be vacated."

Beyond that, even if the prosecutor's office said the opposite--that in light of the report, the office now believes that the men are innocent, it's not up to them.   A court would have to vacate the convictions, or the governor would have to pardon them or grant them clemency.

viper37

Quote from: LaCroix on October 05, 2015, 10:35:16 PM
buzzfeed article title says they're not guilty, yet they were found guilty. :hmm:
A technicality:
"Looking at all the evidence, we conclude that Montanez and Serrano are more likely than not actually innocent."
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Well, the pro-death penalty advocates do have a point.  If these men had been executed we wouldn't have to deal with this now.
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LaCroix

Quote from: viper37 on October 05, 2015, 10:48:53 PMA technicality:
"Looking at all the evidence, we conclude that Montanez and Serrano are more likely than not actually innocent."

not according to a court. if we relied on the investigators to deliver the actual truth, a lot of cases would involve an injustice.

Ideologue

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You know, I am curious why governors don't more often use their pardon power in cases where guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, or even guilt beyond a preponderance of the evidence, in retrospect appears to be lacking.  I realize that they all, regardless of party affiliation, want to craft an image of being tough on (certain kinds of) crime.  But surely freeing people that are more likely than not innocent--when someone else has done all the legwork--would be a generally popular move.  Indeed, it's exactly why the pardon power exists.

Are governors more constrained in their use of the pardon power than the president (that is, in some states, do they need an act of legislature to issue a pardon)?  Do they just not give a fuck?  Do their constituents not give a fuck?  I know Republicans don't generally give a fuck, but at the very least it seems like a good way to mobilize the Democratic base.  "Hey! Do you want someone who'll let innocent people rot in prison, or do you want to vote?"
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The problem is most people don't want to examine the evidence themselves, so the public just sees that Somebody thinks the guy is innocent but the jury decided otherwise.
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dps

Quote from: Ideologue on October 05, 2015, 11:25:09 PM
You know, I am curious why governors don't more often use their pardon power in cases where guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, or even guilt beyond a preponderance of the evidence, in retrospect appears to be lacking.  I realize that they all, regardless of party affiliation, want to craft an image of being tough on (certain kinds of) crime.  But surely freeing people that are more likely than not innocent--when someone else has done all the legwork--would be a generally popular move.  Indeed, it's exactly why the pardon power exists.

Are governors more constrained in their use of the pardon power than the president (that is, in some states, do they need an act of legislature to issue a pardon)?  Do they just not give a fuck?  Do their constituents not give a fuck?  I know Republicans don't generally give a fuck, but at the very least it seems like a good way to mobilize the Democratic base.  "Hey! Do you want someone who'll let innocent people rot in prison, or do you want to vote?"

I think that there are some restrictions on the governor issuing pardons in some states, but I have no idea about the details.  Beyond that, if I were a governor, I'd be hesitant to set myself above the courts unless it was clear that an injustice had been done.  If a jury of your peers says you're guilty, who am I to say otherwise?

Also, technically, accepting a pardon is like accepting a parole--accepting it is an admission of guilt, so if you really want to prove that you're innocent, you don't want a pardon.

Ideologue

I dunno.  With presidential pardons, I don't think there's any necessity to accept the pardon; did Nixon admit legal guilt? :unsure:

I'm pretty certain SC's pardon system was also unilateral.  With a pardon, you could have your criminal record expunged.  If that's accepting guilt, it's not any kind of legally cognizable guilt.
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Ideologue

Looked it up again, I was wrong.

Anyway, I'd take a pardon over being in jail. :P
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: dps on October 05, 2015, 11:41:36 PM
Also, technically, accepting a pardon is like accepting a parole--accepting it is an admission of guilt, so if you really want to prove that you're innocent, you don't want a pardon.
I didn't realize it was possible to decline a pardon.  :huh:
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viper37

Quote from: LaCroix on October 05, 2015, 11:14:09 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 05, 2015, 10:48:53 PMA technicality:
"Looking at all the evidence, we conclude that Montanez and Serrano are more likely than not actually innocent."

not according to a court. if we relied on the investigators to deliver the actual truth, a lot of cases would involve an injustice.
ah, but it seems there is obstruction to get that investigative report to the court, for consideration.
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garbon

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 05, 2015, 11:33:48 PM
The problem is most people don't want to examine the evidence themselves, so the public just sees that Somebody thinks the guy is innocent but the jury decided otherwise.

It might be something like that but I think few people actually think juries are infallible.
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Quote from: viper37 on October 06, 2015, 08:43:13 AM
Quote from: LaCroix on October 05, 2015, 11:14:09 PM
Quote from: viper37 on October 05, 2015, 10:48:53 PMA technicality:
"Looking at all the evidence, we conclude that Montanez and Serrano are more likely than not actually innocent."

not according to a court. if we relied on the investigators to deliver the actual truth, a lot of cases would involve an injustice.
ah, but it seems there is obstruction to get that investigative report to the court, for consideration.

Given that the court is the one who ordered the results sealed, I don't think getting the results to court was the issue.

The problem with reports like Buzzfeed's is that they are out to prove a point that generates clicks, like "innocent men are in prizon OMG!!!oneoneone."  So, you end up with storylines like "one eyewitness identification critical to his conviction was made under "undisputedly challenging circumstances."  One eyewitness identification?  Not 'the only," but "one."  What about the others?  Ditto for one witness recanting; is that a significant event, or a trivial one?  Reporters like this buzzfeed one don't tell us, because that might ruin his clickbait.

tl;dr;  Timmay is outraged, buzzfeed is outraged, so the only conclusion is: innocence claim tainted.
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