Saudi Arabia will likely go broke before the US oil industry buckles

[viper37]

Saudia Aradia is the same as ISIS. No difference there. To be honest, it's the one place where'd I'd be quite happy to see chaos there, as it should mean that it will reduce any donor revenue for other extremist groups elsewhere.

do you think Iraq, as of today, is the best outcome possible for the occidental world?  'Cause a collapse of Saudi Arabia will certainly not lead to a free, democratic country respectful of human rights.

People fighting each other in their own country have generally less time to export their ideology abroad. Al Qaeda only gained traction in Afghanistan once most of the country was under Taliban control. For the West internal chaos is better than a horrible regime, immigrant crisis notwithstanding.

They're fighting each other in their country because we have troops and airplanes fighting some of these groups over there.
Otherwise, Iraq would have been overrun.  And it does not prevent terrorism acts to be perprated or attempted all over the world in the name of ISIS.

[derspiess]

A long time ago after a night of drinking in Newark, Delaware I hit my usual late night spot-- a Turkish-owned diner.  I donated my change to some "Suleiman the Magnificent Muslim School" or whatever it said on the donation bucket they had next to the cash register.  Hope I didn't fund any terrorism

No, just future Socialist presidents.

DAMNIT

[viper37]

A long time ago after a night of drinking in Newark, Delaware I hit my usual late night spot-- a Turkish-owned diner.  I donated my change to some "Suleiman the Magnificent Muslim School" or whatever it said on the donation bucket they had next to the cash register.  Hope I didn't fund any terrorism

You probably funded a trip to the Carribean by the founders of the charity and some of their employees.

[derspiess]

You probably funded a trip to the Carribean by the founders of the charity and some of their employees.

Glad I could help, then.  That 38 cents wasn't going to do much for me.

[derspiess]

Anyway the buckle I was talking about looked something like this:

[Monoriu]

I donated my change

That's your problem right there

[Eddie Teach]

If he'd just invested it, today he'd have enough money for a baked empenada.

[Razgovory]

Saudia Aradia is the same as ISIS. No difference there. To be honest, it's the one place where'd I'd be quite happy to see chaos there, as it should mean that it will reduce any donor revenue for other extremist groups elsewhere.

do you think Iraq, as of today, is the best outcome possible for the occidental world?  'Cause a collapse of Saudi Arabia will certainly not lead to a free, democratic country respectful of human rights.

People fighting each other in their own country have generally less time to export their ideology abroad. Al Qaeda only gained traction in Afghanistan once most of the country was under Taliban control. For the West internal chaos is better than a horrible regime, immigrant crisis notwithstanding.

Yeah, I mean it was decades after Russian civil war before there was any Communist uprisings in Europe.

[PJL]

Saudia Aradia is the same as ISIS. No difference there. To be honest, it's the one place where'd I'd be quite happy to see chaos there, as it should mean that it will reduce any donor revenue for other extremist groups elsewhere.

do you think Iraq, as of today, is the best outcome possible for the occidental world?  'Cause a collapse of Saudi Arabia will certainly not lead to a free, democratic country respectful of human rights.

People fighting each other in their own country have generally less time to export their ideology abroad. Al Qaeda only gained traction in Afghanistan once most of the country was under Taliban control. For the West internal chaos is better than a horrible regime, immigrant crisis notwithstanding.

Yeah, I mean it was decades after Russian civil war before there was any Communist uprisings in Europe.

All the initial communist uprisings were more due to a collapse of central authority from the First World War rather than a orchestrated effort from a organised communist country. Otherwise, it pretty much was decades afterwards.

[Razgovory]

All the initial communist uprisings were more due to a collapse of central authority from the First World War rather than a orchestrated effort from a organised communist country. Otherwise, it pretty much was decades afterwards.

Fortunately radical Islam must come from a organized country.  Can't happen from the collapse of central authority, so we are in the clear.

[PJL]

All the initial communist uprisings were more due to a collapse of central authority from the First World War rather than a orchestrated effort from a organised communist country. Otherwise, it pretty much was decades afterwards.

Fortunately radical Islam must come from a organized country.  Can't happen from the collapse of central authority, so we are in the clear.

It's following the same pattern as the Communist ones. Initial uprising by Islamists (Saudis) caused by collapse of central authority (Ottomans) leads to a radical state which then sponsors other like minded uprisings in other areas once it has the funds to do so.

[DontSayBanana]

TL;DR: Saudis got it into their heads that they're more important than they are.  In reality, Washington is a bigger threat to shale drilling than Saudia Arabia.

[Razgovory]

It's following the same pattern as the Communist ones. Initial uprising by Islamists (Saudis) caused by collapse of central authority (Ottomans) leads to a radical state which then sponsors other like minded uprisings in other areas once it has the funds to do so.

Er, no.  The Saudis were never really ruled by the Ottomans.  Ottoman authority did not extend out into the middle of the desert at best they were allies.  They weren't even part of the Arab revolt, the Saudis just were piratical opportunists who simply conquered newly independent states.

[Josquius]

Not good news at all.
The Saudis are dicks but I really don't think a particularly great alternative is in the offing.

[Razgovory]

There is nine million foreign workers in that country.  If the government fell there would be an enormous humanitarian crisis.  If an ISIS like government took control it could result in a vast genocide.